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EPA to announce reversal on fuel economy standards next week
hotair.com ^ | 3/4/2017 | John Sexton

Posted on 03/05/2017 7:18:16 AM PST by rktman

The Environmental Protection Agency will announce a change in automobile emissions standards next week, undoing a last minute effort by the Obama administration to lock in the rules through 2025. The NY Times reports:

The tailpipe pollution regulations were among Mr. Obama’s major initiatives to reduce global warming and were put forth jointly by the E.P.A. and the Transportation Department. They would have forced automakers to build passenger cars that achieve an average of 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025, compared with about 36 miles per gallon today

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; epa; watchdogs
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To: Paladin2

Must be TDIs.


21 posted on 03/05/2017 8:27:02 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: fireman15

I hear you. A couple of points...

I read a story a few years back, Obama appointees were talking to car makers in discussion about future fuel efficiency. At one point they’re informed, “we can’t violate the laws of physics”. This prompted the reply, “laws of what? who’s laws are we talking about? ...but this is why we’re here, we can change laws!!”. I don’t know how true it is but it made me chuckle, while shaking my head because it wouldn’t surprise me.

Another instance, the estimate of ~10,000 having been killed due to the single fact that government regulations in the 80’s, regarding fuel efficiency, turned our cars into rolling tin cans. They became less safe and people were killed because of it.

Why people have faith in government is beyond me. I’ve never seen anything happen quickly and efficiently, it just makes everything far more expensive than need be. It’s mostly a violation of the 80/20 rule. The EPA can require basic common sense rules that keep the vast majority of air and water clean. Do they stop there? No, the radicals keep pushing the envelope causing exponentially higher costs.

...and don’t get me started on FEMA. When this slumbering entity has to act it is too big to do so and when it fails the answer is always, “because it isn’t funded enough!”....which would only make it worse.

The government should just have tax laws that encourage the consumer to make choices that drive private companies to deliver environmentally friendly products, but not require it. If people want a muscle car that gets 10mpg that’s their wallet. If they don’t get a tax credit it’s a choice they made. Of course that’s not good enough for the climate extremists though.


22 posted on 03/05/2017 8:28:10 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: tcrlaf

“In Indiana, 100% gas is labeled “Agricultural Fuel”, and nearly every co-op carries it, though at a higher price.

The pump also has to have a note on it saying “Not for use in motor vehicles”, to get around the EPA regs.”

I don’t recall seeing such a note on the pumps in Oklahoma. Pure gas is ubiquitous in OK, so I question that there are EPA
“regs” that have to be “gotten around”. I think some states are in “cahoots” with the ethanol people.


23 posted on 03/05/2017 8:30:27 AM PST by mtrott
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To: fireman15

thanks...
there are 89 ethanol-free gas stations in Illinois.
(I used this place http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=IL)

closest is 50 minutes away....arg...


24 posted on 03/05/2017 8:30:40 AM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: sagar; All
Yup not the cookie-cutter crap on the market today. Let's see some Americana again... I like land yachts. 😁

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25 posted on 03/05/2017 8:39:27 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: stylin19a

OK, somebody please give me some explanation for this, other than that the powers that be in Austin have restricted the availability of pure gas in Texas. And keep in mind the population of TX is SEVEN TIMES the population of OK.

Ethanol-free gas stations:

Texas — 156
Oklahoma — 640

Huge difference there.


26 posted on 03/05/2017 8:39:39 AM PST by mtrott
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To: mtrott

the site I used is self-reporting.
so it really is a crap shoot.


27 posted on 03/05/2017 8:44:24 AM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: rktman

Boy, it’s like Christmas every day with the Trump Administration. This is really good news, those lightweight tin boxes they make now to get good fuel economy are deathtraps.


28 posted on 03/05/2017 9:14:36 AM PST by gunsmithkat (There is no such thing as Too Many Guns)
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To: mtrott
OK, somebody please give me some explanation for this, other than that the powers that be in Austin have restricted the availability of pure gas in Texas. And keep in mind the population of TX is SEVEN TIMES the population of OK.

Probably because 80% of the population of Texas lives in counties that are desginated EPA non-attainment areas, usually for 8-hr. ozone levels. If you live in an EPA non-attainment area, you're required to use gasoline with some type of oxygenate (usually ethanol), and you get to submit your vehicle to yearly emissions tests as part of registration or inspection.

However, it appears that currently, there are no EPA non-attainment areas in Oklahoma. Due to a lower population that drives fewer miles in the aggregate (resulting in less ozone emissions), they do not have these regulations. They don't have to use E10 like most people in Texas, and they probably aren't required to undergo annual vehicle emissions tests, either.

Over here in west Harris County, TX, I needed to start using pure gas in a power washer. I had to buy it at a performance shop; it was 98 octane, ethanol-free, and sold as "racing fuel." For $8.00/gallon.
29 posted on 03/05/2017 9:18:47 AM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Milton Miteybad

Apparently there was an influx of matter from the “bozone” belt at times during the decision making phase.


30 posted on 03/05/2017 9:22:26 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: FatherofFive

Lots of ethanol free gas here in Louisiana, and usually not much more at the pump than the corn juice. I use it religiously, and about the only time I don’t is when I travel out of state.


31 posted on 03/05/2017 9:23:48 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: rktman

The President could direct the GSA to only purchase government cars that meet the EPA fantasies.


32 posted on 03/05/2017 9:32:38 AM PST by charleywhiskey
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To: fireman15

You are correct, General aviation in the US is going the way of Europe and the rest of the world, as regulations, expenses and requirements increase dramatically.

The US had a vibrant industry, it is slowing dieing.


33 posted on 03/05/2017 9:35:37 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Milton Miteybad

You might want to check out the local airport for 100LL. It should sell for 5-6 a gallon, I know guys with older cars who love it for their vehicles. Not sure how it would work for what you are trying to do, but worth investigating.


34 posted on 03/05/2017 9:41:47 AM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

That was also a possibility, but the performance shop was closer.


35 posted on 03/05/2017 9:43:17 AM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: stylin19a

“In Illinois, I can not find a station that sells ethanol-less gas.”

It depends on what part of the state you are in. You are more likely to find it available in farming communities (tractors, etc.) and near lakes (boating). Here is a link for a list of Illinois stations. Notice none in big cities like Chicago, Rockford and Aurora. I used to get mine at an unmanned station in Davis Junction, just south of Rockford. No account needed, though.

http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=IL


36 posted on 03/05/2017 10:12:26 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: stylin19a
"In Illinois, I cannot find a station that sells ethanol-less gas."

Many websites show them, like pure-gas.org, which shows nearly a hundred in IL.

37 posted on 03/05/2017 10:13:10 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: Dr. Sivana; diogenes ghost

thanks. see my post #24.


38 posted on 03/05/2017 10:22:39 AM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Cobra64
Yup not the cookie-cutter crap on the market today. Let's see some Americana again... I like land yachts.

Same. I got my wife a '94 Roadmaster wagon. That's as big as you get in a modern land yacht. I drove a '65 Chrysler 300 2-door hardtop in the early 2000s. My dream though, is a restored 1961 Chrysler Imperial, though the Lincolns are great, too.
39 posted on 03/05/2017 10:34:52 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: charleywhiskey
The President could direct the GSA to only purchase government cars that meet the EPA fantasies.

Hah. When they need to move a mobile command post trailer or something similarly large and heavy, they can yoke a dozen Chevy Volts together like oxen.

40 posted on 03/05/2017 11:15:04 AM PST by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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