THE RIGHT THROWS MILO TO THE WOLVES

I feel sorry for Milo, but I never felt comfortable with his position at Breitbart

I simply MUST avoid swatting at this softball!

61 posted on 02/22/2017 3:56:13 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: Jamestown1630

I’m on Milo’s side in this; but I can’t believe that Trump ever really considered Milo for that position.

After resisting the first; the second has become easier.

62 posted on 02/22/2017 3:57:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Nope... ain’t gonna do it!

63 posted on 02/22/2017 3:59:18 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

64 posted on 02/22/2017 4:01:16 PM PST by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)

Then they be usin' #24 here...

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply.

These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the conspiracy or coverup.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.
2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.
3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.
4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.
7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.
8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.
9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.
10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.
11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just isn't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.
12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.
13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.
14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.
15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.
16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.
17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.
21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.
22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.
23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.
24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of theircharacter by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health.
25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen. .

How to spot the professional disinfo players by one or more of seven (now 8) distinct traits:

65 posted on 02/22/2017 4:02:03 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

It seems FR has a mix of old-school conservatives that hate somebody only for being gay and others that love him for everything his is, except being gay - big difference.

Which of these two groups you've defined will you place me into??

A BIBLICAL Message to LGBT folks EVERYWHERE!

Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Leviticus niv

18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Romans 1 New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)

18 The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; 21 for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.

24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, 27 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. 28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. 29 They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite.

2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

The Health Risks of gay sex.

66 posted on 02/22/2017 4:03:46 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Many won’t admit it because the guy is a homosexual but, he is incredibly effective at what he does.

And a whore; Rahab; was in the lineage of Jesus...

67 posted on 02/22/2017 4:04:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: AlanGreenSpam

An enraged Yorkie can attach it’s fangs on anyone’s ankle; but a mere twitch of the leg will send it flying.

68 posted on 02/22/2017 4:06:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

It is as if 13-year-old heterosexuals never sneak around and have heterosexual sex among themselves, or with older teens or with adults, and sincerely believe that they are consenting; or that, if raped, that they asked for it. It happens with many children. Heterosexuals who have sex as young teens also will be confused for life by it—it really isn’t limited to the gay community, although it is a statistically outlying phenomenon in both groups. The hypocrisy of the left in begging for ever more transgressive sexual expression and then setting up a conservative who is gay is nauseating, especially since those who did the setting up think of themselves as Republicans.

69 posted on 02/22/2017 5:03:48 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")

Conservatism cannot endorse homosexuality in any way, shape or form. To do so is to abandon conservatism.

Conservatism really needs to understand the reality of child sex abuse, how devastating it is and how long it takes to recover (especially when society tells them "that's it; you're gay; it's all over for you").

Conservatives need to start fighting for the victims of child sex abuse with compassion instead of kicking them to the curb.

Conservatives should be fighting against the insane bills like the one signed into law by Governor Christie of New Jersey that forbid therapy for "gay" children who do not wish to be "gay", even those children who may have developed this idea because they were molested in early childhood by an older child or an adult.

If conservatives would do those things, there would be a lot fewer adult homosexuals.

It is not an "endorsement" of homosexuality to develop compassion and hold out the promise of redemption to the adult victims of child sex abuse who have not yet found the supportive place in which to try to come to terms with what was done to them.

For "conservatives" to reject them out of hand because they are still acting out their homosexual victimization in adulthood and have had no place to find healing (as long as the acting out is with other consenting adults) is no credit to conservatism.

70 posted on 02/22/2017 5:18:16 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")

To: Pilgrim's Progress

There is a civil war fomenting at this site and I find it to be very disgusting . . . and Milo is their battle rag - a sodomite!

Have you ever really given any thought to thanking God on your knees that you were created a heterosexual and that no one apparently abused you sexually in childhood, so that you would not become confused? Because to be self-righteous about how you were created and were blessed, against the case of someone like Milo who was victimized in childhood, is not exactly shining the light of Christ. It smells more like pride over a great gift that was given to you unearned, as if you somehow deserved it more than he, who was violated and raped by a priest, or any person who has endured this type of soul-searing violation.

71 posted on 02/22/2017 5:27:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")

To: Albion Wilde

We are all created in the image and likeness of God . . . God does not make mistakes. He created a man to be a man and a woman to be a woman.

You are pitiful.

72 posted on 02/22/2017 5:30:04 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)

Once again, Horowitz hits it out of the park.

He’s absolutely correct. Conservatives are our own worst enemies.

73 posted on 02/22/2017 5:30:35 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)

There is a woman medieval historian and academic who has written extensively about Milo's spiritual struggles as a Catholic, as well as the gifts he has shared. I think you might like her blog, Mrs. Don-o:

Fencing Bear at Prayer

(she was raised Presbyterian but is taking Catholic instruction)

74 posted on 02/22/2017 5:35:16 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")

It’s disappointing that so many see an edited video that contradicts everything else Milo has said and done on multiple occasions and not give him any benefit of doubt, mostly due to their unbridled hate because he’s gay. This is not conservative or Christian.

Thumbs up to your post.

75 posted on 02/22/2017 5:37:06 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")

I think Milo will double down and fight like hell over this GOPe game of smear-the-queer.

He’s not out of it yet. The fight will be interesting to watch.

76 posted on 02/22/2017 5:43:08 PM PST by Rebelbase

It’s kill the messenger plain and simple.

If there was ever a time where the message outweighs the flaws of the messenger it is now.

77 posted on 02/22/2017 5:45:11 PM PST by Rebelbase

He was able to perfectly demonstrate to these kids that nearly everything they have had shoved down their throats was a giant lie. It was working.

Bully Culture

78 posted on 02/22/2017 5:46:46 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")

To: Pilgrim's Progress

You mean a civil war between those who can’t separate a man’s message from is flaws and those who can?

Don’t be ridiculous, sinner.

79 posted on 02/22/2017 5:48:30 PM PST by Rebelbase

To: Pilgrim's Progress

We are all created in the image and likeness of God . . . God does not make mistakes. He created a man to be a man and a woman to be a woman. You are pitiful.

I am pitiful, FRiend. I am full of pity for those, like Milo, who have been abused sexually and are suffering from it for years afterward; and I am full of pity for those who believe self-righteous judgmentalism of the victims of this kind of crime is a bona fide of conservatism – or of Christianity, for that matter.

We do know that God does not make mistakes. But we also know that sin entered the world in the Garden, and that society has been coddling sex abusers, making excuses for their crimes against children, enabling them, promoting heathen sexual practices in all the media and in law, and forbidding counselors to help even those children who were raped as infants and toddlers to receive adequate counseling if one of the results of their abuse is that they then believe they are "gay."

This is the reality of our fallen world for the abused; Mr. Yiannopoulos was abused not by just anyone, but by a priest of the Roman church, making it even more difficult to sort out his understanding of God's true love and intentions for him.

Clearly you have not read his words or you would know that he condemns pedophilia and has exposed the lies of the left concerning male-female relations, abortion, and homosexuality. He has publicly admitted he is a sinner. It is those who take pleasure in despising him for whom I am full of pity.

80 posted on 02/22/2017 6:06:24 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("January 20, 2017, will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.")

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