Posted on 02/18/2017 5:54:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Within the next 10 years, there's a good chance that 50% of the jobs today will be gone.And no one in Washington is talking about what to do to deal with this likelihood.
The cause of this coming massive economic upheaval is artificial intelligence -- a catch-all term that encompasses everything from driverless cars to sex robots. Its impact is already being felt on the factory floor, where smart machines are making American manufacturers more competitive, more efficient, and more profitable, but without the mass number of workers that used to be the backbone of the American economy.
Donald Trump says he can change all this, that he can bring these jobs back from overseas, or prevent illegal immigrants from taking them. And the president isn't alone. The Democratic Party and the AFL-CIO still believe that a manufacturing Renaissance is possible.
But this is a fantasy. Those jobs didn't go overseas. They're forever gone as super-intelligent machines are making human beings superfluous.
Unnoticed by most is that this Renaissance is already well underway. The problem for Trump, the Democrats, and the unions is that the new plants are employing 90% fewer workers than they would have a generation ago. As manufacturing jobs disappear, manufacturing output is soaring. We are making more things in the U.S. than in any other country except China. And we're doing it with a lot fewer workers.
A hugely significant meeting took place in Asilomar, California, in January at which the top experts in the field of artificial intelligence gathered to discuss ethical guidelines to prevent some super-intelligent machine from running amok and threatening civilization. This is a serious question that is being debated by dead serious people who know the potential of AI for good -- and evil.
But the attendees were far more worried about the impact of AI on the workforce and what it means for the future of the economy.
In the US, the number of manufacturing jobs peaked in 1979 and has steadily decreased ever since. At the same time, manufacturing has steadily increased, with the US now producing more goods than any other country but China. Machines arent just taking the place of humans on the assembly line. Theyre doing a better job. And all this before the coming wave of AI upends so many other sectors of the economy. I am less concerned with Terminator scenarios, MIT economist Andrew McAfee said on the first day at Asilomar. If current trends continue, people are going to rise up well before the machines do.
McAfee pointed to newly collected data that shows a sharp decline in middle class job creation since the 1980s. Now, most new jobs are either at the very low end of the pay scale or the very high end. He also argued that these trends are reversible, that improved education and a greater emphasis on entrepreneurship and research can help feed new engines of growth, that economies have overcome the rise of new technologies before. But after his talk, in the hallways at Asilomar, so many of the researchers warned him that the coming revolution in AI would eliminate far more jobs far more quickly than he expected.
Indeed, the rise of driverless cars and trucks is just a start. New AI techniques are poised to reinvent everything from manufacturing to healthcare to Wall Street. In other words, its not just blue-collar jobs that AI endangers. Several of the rock stars in this field came up to me and said: I think youre low-balling this one. I think you are underestimating the rate of change,' McAfee says.
That threat has many thinkers entertaining the idea of a universal basic income, a guaranteed living wage paid by the government to anyone left out of the workforce. But McAfee believes this would only make the problem worse, because it would eliminate the incentive for entrepreneurship and other activity that could create new jobs as the old ones fade away. Others question the psychological effects of the idea. A universal basic income doesnt give people dignity or protect them from boredom and vice, Etzioni says.
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Life is all about choices.
Corporations have the right to use robots.
Citizens have the right not to buy products.
Some of these choices will become very easy when corporations grasp that reality.
Folks aren’t going to watch every job handed over to a robot and not devise a policy to fight back.
Just because you can do something, it doesn’t make it right.
Unless corporations can find a way to pay robots the $0.50 cents an hour wage they want, and then let the robots buy things, their little pipe dream won’t work.
Not sure what you can buy for $0.50 cents an hour, but the corporate brain trusts must.
I’ll be glad when the media gives this subject thoughtful dicussion instead of sensationalism and boneheadedness (basic income).
This is a left wing (maybe chamber of commerce) lie! It is true that automation replaces some manufacturing jobs, but not entirely, unlike offshoring a factory. China has added millions of manufacturing jobs over the last decade.
^^ not robots, chinese manufacturing
It is tough enough to deal with the job losses due to automation, but automation + China is suicide.
they ignore that there will be a big increase in the demand for robot repairmen.
If this scenario is real, how can we justify ANY large scale immigration at all?
A factor I keep bringing up but liberals ignore - if there are fewer jobs due to automation, then it immoral to bring in more unskilled and skilled labor to compete for the declining number of jobs that cannot be automated or outsourced.
We already went through this with agriculture.
Most agricultural jobs went away form 1910 to 1950.
Now manufacturing jobs have been decreasing for 30 years already.
Service jobs have picked up. Lots of service jobs are good paying, like realtors or medical workers.
Making everything far more productive is a good problem to have.
I would propose a lot of deregulation for business People will have to be self employed if they are not going to be employees.
Not a perfect solution but can be done.
Wait a minute - I supposed to have a robot-driven flying car by now.
More robots in the future - sure.
Massive worker displacement?
More than Obama displaced??
“Service jobs have picked up. Lots of service jobs are good paying, like realtors or medical workers.”
“Making everything far more productive is a good problem to have.”
Many other service jobs pay pathetic wages. I think you are glossing over reality here. I would really hate to be a young person starting out in this economy. This is not really comparable to the industrial revolution or the agricultural revolution. Someone else posted a remark about jobs REPAIRING robots but what I expect is that robots will build robots and robots will repair robots. As far as medical jobs what reason is there to believe that robots cannot take over those jobs too? I am not suggesting that we can go back to the old days, I just don’t see how all this is necessarily going to lead to paradise on Earth.
BTTT
And what happens when the driverless truck has a flat tire?
There is a natural feedback effect.
If there is no one to buy the products produced at automated factories, then the factories go out of business.
There is no point in having robots make things that no one buys.
There have always been short term dislocations, and that is the biggest problem, if change happens very fast, the dislocations are harsher. One sixth of the economy is now in medical care, and most of those jobs are hard to automate. Maybe it will climb to one third.
I do not know, but the more we try to control things, the more likely we are to make mistakes.
I do not like the idea of a guaranteed income. Maybe we could guarantee low paying, subsidized jobs, that everyone would like to get out of...
You allude to a growing need for the increase in the need for medical care; geriatric care will see a huge increase in employment. Who knows, perhaps factory products will become very cheap. Barring a cataclysm, things will get better.
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