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To: kevcol

Actually I don’t see why they cannot ask about firearms.

It’s whether they force the patient to answer that is the issue.


3 posted on 02/18/2017 10:53:10 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The Florida law did not have an exception for suicidal/homicidal ideation (where asking if you have a plan and the means is standard of care).

Otherwise, as you say, asking is OK, compulsion is not. And abandonment is never OK.


15 posted on 02/18/2017 11:00:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Actually I don’t see why they cannot ask about firearms. It’s whether they force the patient to answer that is the issue.

If asked the question, I could just lie, but instead might counter with - Doctor, I support Patient-Physician Confidentiality! After I answer that question, will you promise me that you nor anyone from your office will disclose my answer to anyone outside of your practice.

If Dr. responses that he/she can not promise disclosure might not be released, then I can give him/her the answer they seek, with fingers crossed. No, I do not own a gun. -

1) I own more then a gun,

2) I gave my guns to my dog.

3) Any gun around belong to my estate and thus not to me as an individual.

4) Any other answer I can think up.

I understand the purpose for the question - Will my patient, in a desperate moment take their own life. I just don't believe the Government should begin in any way in infringe on the 2nd amendment.

20 posted on 02/18/2017 11:03:20 AM PST by Dustoff45 (Where there is smoke, there is someone playing with matches trying to start a fire.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I have no problem with anyone asking me any question. The problem lies when the “authority” asking the questions feel entitled to a response.


23 posted on 02/18/2017 11:04:07 AM PST by Oz8509338511 (2 Chron. 7:14)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
True conversation between and my doctor during my physical:

Doctor: Are you feeling depressed?
Me: No. Not at all. My moods are pretty stable.
Doctor: Are you having any long term or short term memory problems?
Me: No. My memories are completely intact and contiguous.
Doctor: Are there any guns in your house?
Me: I forget.

If looks could maim, I'd have left that office in a basket.

38 posted on 02/18/2017 11:13:17 AM PST by lafroste (Look at my profile page. Thanks.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I agree. Apparently a doctor refused to see a patient for refusing to answer. I was filling out a form for a doctor once and my answer to the gun ownership question was “nyb”. I hoped to be asked what it meant, but never was. Not your business.


42 posted on 02/18/2017 11:15:45 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Since doctors can refuse to see patients they see as a liability risk and are already refusing to see anti-vaccination patients, there may be doctors who want to similarly segregate gun owners.


98 posted on 02/18/2017 12:03:13 PM PST by tbw2
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To: the OlLine Rebel; FlingWingFlyer

The problem is that most people, when caught unawares, will blurt out an answer. Even when it is something that they would not have answered had they had a minute to think about it. So this will allow doctors to ask nunofyerbizness questions and have them answered even when the patient may have intended not to answer.

And if you think you would not fall for this, it’s probably true. Those of us reading this are aware, so therefore not easy targets for this sort of thing. But how confident are you that your spouse or child will not blurt out the answer? Or even offer it freely? That is why this should be illegal.


103 posted on 02/18/2017 12:46:36 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

First, I would take out my phone and tell him the conversation will be recorded. Then reverse the roles of interrogator and subject; question him and his reason for asking, then ask a question of my own as a response to any question he asks. Two can play the game.


115 posted on 02/18/2017 1:22:08 PM PST by DPMD
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I guarantee you: a refusal or an evasion will be reported to the “appropriate” authority.


117 posted on 02/18/2017 1:49:46 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

And if they crosscheck the answer with federal agencies and find out it was a lie, then what?


119 posted on 02/18/2017 2:28:39 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Guns? Yeah I got guns!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fM959yNpwXE/hqdefault.jpg


123 posted on 02/18/2017 3:22:09 PM PST by SERE_MSgt
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Exactly. They can ask all they want, and I can say “None of your FU****G business.”

There isn’t a law against that yet that I know of.


124 posted on 02/18/2017 3:42:25 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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