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I very much dislike cigarette smoke, but people and the media should tell the truth. Activists, who call themselves scientists, led people astray on the effects of second-hand smoke. This has now been proven. The same thing happened with the alar scare in the 1980s, DDT, global warming, and countless other causes that the Left had used to scare people into the need for more regulation and more government control (by them). The Truth doesn't matter to Leftists/Liberals. The only thing that matters is power. Alinsky wrote that "The ends justify the means" and Leftists believe it.
1 posted on 02/13/2017 5:49:16 PM PST by DeweyCA
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They are puling the same scam with their “climate change” bullshit.


2 posted on 02/13/2017 5:51:41 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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The second hand smoke studies have a lot in common with climate alarmism.

Lots of political activism, almost no facts.


3 posted on 02/13/2017 5:52:20 PM PST by marktwain (We wanted to tell our side of the story. We hope by us telling our story...)
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Climate studies are mostly bunk.
A good deal of the Smoking studies was bunk.
Guess what? A lot of the Evolution stuff is bunk too.

But all the scientists say what is expected of them, because otherwise the money dries up.


4 posted on 02/13/2017 5:53:35 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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Filter, flavor, pack or box.


6 posted on 02/13/2017 5:55:36 PM PST by MUDDOG
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... the results were wildly implausible and the methodologies deeply flawed...

Just like the propaganda anti Second Amendment people use.


7 posted on 02/13/2017 5:55:40 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning)
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Rush put his finger on it this afternoon: when the anti-smoking nazis were on the warpath, second hand smoke was the deadliest threat since mustard gas.

But now that medical marijuana is available throughout the country, and some states have started to legalize recreational marijuana, well lookee here - second-hand smoke is really no big deal.

When it comes to hypocrisy, the left is the gold standard.


9 posted on 02/13/2017 5:59:42 PM PST by Stosh
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First they came for the smokers but I didnt smoke so I did nothing....you know the rest.

Allowing junk science to drive policy results in tyranny.

Their success with the smoking bans only emboldened the tyrannical left.


10 posted on 02/13/2017 6:01:44 PM PST by joshua c (Cut the cord! Don't pay for the rope they hang you with.)
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I lived in a an apartment that even though I did not smoke, previous tenants had and all my belongings started smelling like smoke. I’d shower and dry off in a towel smelling like smoke. my hair smelled of smoke within an hour or two of washing it.

I obviously was breathing in second hand smoke. I constantly had a scratchy throat allergy type symptoms while living there. I have no clue if it’s effected my insides in other ways.

The office said they painted and cleaned carpet and i had them set off deodorizer twice only to have smell return a week or so later. So glad when I moved from there.


11 posted on 02/13/2017 6:02:40 PM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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i knew this from Day 1
13 posted on 02/13/2017 6:03:14 PM PST by tomkat
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LSMFT


16 posted on 02/13/2017 6:07:10 PM PST by polymuser
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“I very much dislike cigarette smoke, but people and the media should tell the truth.”

I couldn’t agree more. At church on Sunday, the pastor went into diatribe for the second Sunday in a row about how bad smoking is and essentially equating smoking with not loving Jesus. He went on about his past experience at the Vietnam Memorial Wall, and how over 50,000 U.S troops died in that conflict. After pulling at everybody’s heartstrings, he cited some kind of B.S. statistic that there are over 50,000 people that die from smoking related illness Every Week in our nation!

I think there’s only a very small handful of smokers in the congregation, but I’d sure hate to have been one of them as the pastor used the B.S. figures from leftist agenda driven “scientists” to publicly shame them, out of “love” of course. This bunk science nonsense has gotten out of control as nonthing more than arguing points for the “progressives”.


17 posted on 02/13/2017 6:07:42 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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This has important implications for journalism.


oh really?


18 posted on 02/13/2017 6:08:43 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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I have a friend that is a restaurateur in San Diego. He was afraid the smoking ban was going to kill his night club business. The opposite happened. Smokers kept coming, and smoked outside. Non- smokers tended to stay longer. What he noticed mostly was an improvement in his health and the sick rate amongst his employees went down. All anecdotal, but it is coming from a guy that was predisposed to expect the opposite.


19 posted on 02/13/2017 6:10:00 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Hmmm. He completely ignored that the coffin nails caused lung cancer ...


21 posted on 02/13/2017 6:13:52 PM PST by TexasGator
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Science isn’t needed to know that it smells bad, gets all over everything and takes forever for the smell to go away. I know someone who got a piano from a smoker’s house. It had to be restored as if it had been in a fire.


22 posted on 02/13/2017 6:14:51 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_%27em_if_you_got_%27em


24 posted on 02/13/2017 6:18:01 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Rush talked about this this morning. His point was that it was interesting that the Left are all over Big Tobacco but completely ignore Canabus and its similar risk factors.
26 posted on 02/13/2017 6:19:49 PM PST by dhs12345
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OK, second-hand smoke is not so dangerous. But where is it written that I have to smell like a snuffed-out cigarette just to satisfy someone's addiction?

Please indulge me a small anecdote: I was waiting in line at an airport where smoking was allowed. A nearby smoker dropped a flaming segment of ashes onto my suit label, instantly burning several holes in it. His reaction when I told him what he had done: A shrug and a muttered "sorry."

29 posted on 02/13/2017 6:22:12 PM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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I grew up in a home with two parents who smoked like chimneys.Mom died at 52 of lung cancer...Dad spent the last 20 years of his life slowly dying of smoking related lung disease.

Although I grew up with a haze of cigarette smoke in the house I've never smoked.I can easily accept that "second hand smoke" is harmless.However,I'm seriously offended by the smell of cigarette smoke so I support smoking bans in public places.

31 posted on 02/13/2017 6:23:18 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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I remember reading extensive studies concerning nicotine that can no longer be found anywhere. Apparently the original rat experiments by the anti tobacco scientists had serious problems as the exposed rats actually lived LONGER than the smoke free rats. They eventually overcame that hurdle by dosing the rats one day on then one day off which kept their bodies stressed from constant withdrawal every other day to shorten their lives sufficiently.

It's the chemicals added that cause the problems for smokers now. Especially the flame retardant that was mandated soon after the Democrats took power at the beginning of Obamas first term.

The same manufactured witch hunt continues today against vaping. I do believe the primary impetus for all these efforts is money and industry power uncontrolled by democrats. The tobacco lobby was powerful and backed republicans in office back when the democrats started sniffing for ways to break them. Seems they were quite successful in those efforts - easy to be when they own the media.

35 posted on 02/13/2017 6:26:07 PM PST by Teflonic (tt)
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