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First Shift: CEOs ask Trump to review mpg rule
Automotive News ^ | February 13, 2017

Posted on 02/13/2017 8:28:09 AM PST by GonzoII

First Shift: CEOs ask Trump to review mpg rule

(Excerpt) Read more at autonews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; cafe; first100days; trump; trump45
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To: Hot Tabasco
None. To be a classic you have to have style and grace. Today's cars look like eggs with wheels.

In a way it is a good thing. I drive a 2001 Camry V6. I could afford a new Camry but why? How much different is a 2001 Camry from a 2017 style wise? Not much. I don't care about technology. Actually I appreciate the simplicity of the 2001 so I keep it.

The blandness saves me money.

41 posted on 02/13/2017 10:21:50 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Yeah, I can tell those apart at a glance. But a couple years later and the Mustang got a lot more generic. Thank you, Bunkie Knudsen.

Then you have the plethora of GM muscle cars which all look alike because they’re basically the same car. Do tell me how you can tell all the different 68-74 A-body muscle cars apart at a quick fleeting glance with no badges? Good luck with that.


42 posted on 02/13/2017 10:22:26 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

A lower belt line would help the style greatly. The way I understand it the high belt line is not mandatory.


43 posted on 02/13/2017 10:23:33 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Enterprise

The SS Chevelle.


44 posted on 02/13/2017 10:23:56 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: FreeReign

The forums I’m on as well as JLR’s own sales numbers and focus groups do. A couple years ago, JLR only managed to sell 15K or so cars here - it got that bad. They’ve improved since but by JLR’s own admissions most of the sales is due to first-time-Jag-buyers buying their new products, not repeat business.

So by JLR’s own admission, that’s what happened.


45 posted on 02/13/2017 10:24:27 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Agreed. I know a today’s large engine mini-van can outperform my ‘68 Mustang 289 resto-rod.

That said, it’s really about the way it makes me feel when I’m cruising down the road, in a piece of industrial art, with the sound of the dual exhaust of the 289 (with cam).


46 posted on 02/13/2017 10:25:07 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: Spktyr

I can tell every car made in the 1960’s from each other. After 1972 I don’t care because after that cars sucked.


47 posted on 02/13/2017 10:25:20 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cobra64

Hate to tell you, but you should probably go look at the video game industry’s statistics. Adults do play video games in vast numbers and we’re not talking about Generation Snowflake adults either.


48 posted on 02/13/2017 10:26:27 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: central_va

Classic look with modern technology.

I would like to see the CJ style come back. Again with modern insides.


49 posted on 02/13/2017 10:27:27 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: PhiloBedo

And that’s fine, honestly. It’s the “oooh, cars were so much better and faster and way more awesome back then” rose-tinted-spectacles thing that needs to be taken out back and shot. No, old cars were generally not. I’ve had to check my own calibration on that several times over the years, as cars improve.


50 posted on 02/13/2017 10:32:58 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: central_va
The retro Challenger is awesome.

Wait until Trump slashes the CAFE standards. Imagine a Challenger on a new smaller platform with a Hellcat/Demon engine. Perhaps that's what we'll see in 2019.

51 posted on 02/13/2017 10:33:01 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Spktyr

Here are 4 2008 cars from 4 DIFFERENT manufactures. Can you tell the difference?

52 posted on 02/13/2017 10:34:04 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Spktyr
A couple years ago, JLR only managed to sell 15K or so cars here - it got that bad. They’ve improved since but by JLR’s own admissions most of the sales is due to first-time-Jag-buyers buying their new products, not repeat business.

Yes, of course. I'm talking about 2014 and after. Jaguar's F-Type is not pissing off core Jag fans.

53 posted on 02/13/2017 10:34:57 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: central_va

Yup. In order from left to right: Toyota Corolla, Subaru Impreza, Nissan Sentra, Mazda 3, Honda Civic.


54 posted on 02/13/2017 10:36:48 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: central_va

LOL.


55 posted on 02/13/2017 10:37:20 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Spktyr

It’s kinda funny. When I get over 70 mph in the old Mustang, I feel like I’m “sitting on a bubble”, where it wouldn’t take much to be heading for the weeds, and I’m being passed by soccer moms in their SUV’s doing 80.


56 posted on 02/13/2017 10:39:51 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: central_va

Sorry, strike the Sentra. No idea why I typed that in there, especially as there are clearly just four cars and none of them are Nissans. :P


57 posted on 02/13/2017 10:40:02 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

There is not a niches bit of difference in the style of any of those cars. Look at them objectively. Boring as hell. I could fall asleep looking at those beveled bland-bots.


58 posted on 02/13/2017 10:40:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Spktyr; central_va
Try this...much easier.


59 posted on 02/13/2017 10:42:16 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: PhiloBedo
I know what you're talking about. My parts shuttle is a 1989 Bronco (talk about unimaginative exterior design) so I know all about that.

On the other hand, this is my 'Sunday driver':


60 posted on 02/13/2017 10:43:25 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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