Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

California Goes Confederate
Townhall.com ^ | February 9, 2017 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/09/2017 6:31:04 AM PST by Kaslin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 141-147 next last
To: riverrunner

Pull all military out and watch communities dry up. Forward position troops and ships. Families to East Coast bases. Another option is pay troops in script, which can only be used on base. Embargo “exports” from California; the Southern states can make up the shortages in farm products.

Then wait and see how long their stance lasts.


81 posted on 02/09/2017 7:37:02 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Not sure California can afford to go independent. Over 45% of the state land is owned by the federal government. I don’t believe Trump or the Fed would be willing to gift this to a break away republic.


82 posted on 02/09/2017 7:40:18 AM PST by Captain Compassion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: central_va
CA wouldn’t allow protesters in war time. When the left gets mean they mow down all opposition. Think of red Russia in 1917.

I get the concept, i'm just not sure it would work the same in California of 2017. These young people are not used to hardship and adversity. They will balk at doing anything hard and "not fun", like fighting people with guns.

Will there be enough murderous "officers" to scare the bejeebus out of them and make them fight? Who's to say they won't run away at first chance? Or turn their weapons on their leadership at first chance?

I see discipline as being horrible, especially if they have officers murdering people to keep them in line. This might work better on people accustomed to suffering, but a lot of the pampered snowflakes would do everything they could to get away from it.

There are a lot of things which would have to work out right for the communists to get this thing to work.

You also haven't addressed the problem of keeping the food, water and electricity flowing into the cities if people outside the cities decide to cut it off. Just a taste of Stalingrad would probably have them surrendering.

I don't know, I can see it going several different ways, one of which is the way you have suggested.

83 posted on 02/09/2017 7:45:03 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: Vaquero
Bye.....but just take the leftist counties with you. We’ll keep the Central Valley and its agriculture and a chunk of coastline

...Not to mention the Federal lands and all Federal installations. Doesn't leave much to grow that Calitopia with.


84 posted on 02/09/2017 7:47:05 AM PST by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: central_va

“...A genius tactician ...”

He had the operational art down pretty damned well, for sure. Reminds me of Patton, a little bit.

“...but a lousy administrator...”

That’s where you should surround yourself with other folks who are skilled at that.

I guess it’s a case of knowing your own strengths versus your weak spots.


85 posted on 02/09/2017 7:47:41 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

California, flat broke and full of total Fools!!!!

State needs to be cut into two parts.


86 posted on 02/09/2017 7:51:51 AM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DiogenesLamp

They will shoot any worker at a power plant the sabotages operations. Same with farmers. Leftists are all nicey nice in peacetime, in wartime totally vicious. Oh, and all the faggots and LGBT types, into camps they go.


87 posted on 02/09/2017 7:57:27 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

In the early 1990s I began to tell folks that illegal immigration would cost the nation California.

I was told that I was a complete fool.

Well, here we are.

The federal government sets immigration policy and enforces it. States do not.

I demanded that the federal government do it’s duty.

It didn’t.

Well, here we are.


88 posted on 02/09/2017 8:09:03 AM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aces

Largest earthen dam in the world and upstream from Sacramento and the precious California Delta.

Big money involved for repair.

Even bigger inflow imminent from melting snow pack. The dam is already full.


89 posted on 02/09/2017 8:13:15 AM PST by ptsal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 76 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
California Goes Confederate

The lesson is clear.

Third world immigration yields anti constitutionalism, anti Americanism and secession.

90 posted on 02/09/2017 8:13:21 AM PST by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
Born & Raised NorCal...


91 posted on 02/09/2017 8:16:39 AM PST by SparkyBass
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Calling California “Confederate” is an insult to all the southern men who fought and died in that conflict, most of whom never owned a slave in their lives.

Rather CA is more like the rapacious North, here taxing the living hell out of its citizenry for whatever reason the state can manufacture.


92 posted on 02/09/2017 8:18:06 AM PST by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Tilting at windmills....

Nonetheless; the instant California seceds from the US, the state of Jefferson seceds from California. Let the games begin.


93 posted on 02/09/2017 8:21:35 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ptsal

All righty then.. cali veggies and fruit at stake...is a big deal you are spot on..


94 posted on 02/09/2017 8:21:45 AM PST by aces (Got Jesus?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

“Blockade Port of Long Beach.....................they will surrender..............”

Nah. Its easier than that. 2 people in 30 minutes could end this: Shut the water off that flows out of Glenn Canyon Dam & Hoover Dam. After Lakes Powell & Mead are full, send the excess to Arizona.

Let California drink sea water.


95 posted on 02/09/2017 8:25:04 AM PST by Djester62
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NFHale

Or, we let them go and Trump builds the wall on the East side of Cali and sends all the illegals either there or Mexico proper. I wonder how long it would take for Oregon and Washington State to follow suit?


96 posted on 02/09/2017 8:27:58 AM PST by Texas Patriot61 (Gun control is being able to hit your target.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Doesn’t it show rather a lack of American patriotism to want to secede from the US of A, whether it was Texas under Obama or California under Trump?


97 posted on 02/09/2017 8:30:56 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hostage

You sir are spot on. The goal should be for CA to secede against the Federal Government’s wishes. Then, this will give the Government the 100% legal and moral authority to go in there and stomp a mud hole in those liberal scum. Within a year or two, the illegals will be back in Mexico and CA will be back in the RED foe generations to come.


98 posted on 02/09/2017 8:47:07 AM PST by ohioman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

Comment #99 Removed by Moderator

To: Red Badger

Yeah, and then fire on Fort Alcatraz.


100 posted on 02/09/2017 8:55:14 AM PST by GingisK
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 141-147 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson