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California Goes Confederate
Townhall.com ^ | February 9, 2017 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 02/09/2017 6:31:04 AM PST by Kaslin

Over sixty percent of California voters went for Hillary Clinton -- a margin of more than 4 million votes over Donald Trump.

Since Clinton's defeat, the state seems to have become unhinged over Trump's unexpected election.

"Calexit" supporters brag that they will have enough signatures to qualify for a ballot measure calling for California's secession from the United States.

Some California officials have talked of the state not remitting its legally obligated tax dollars to the federal government. They talk of expanding its sanctuary cities into an entire sanctuary state that would nullify federal immigration law.

Californians also now talk about the value of the old Confederate idea of "states' rights." They whine that their state gives far too much revenue to Washington and gets too little back.

Residents boast about how their cool culture has little in common with the rest of the U.S. Some Californians claim the state could easily go it alone, divorced from the United States.

Sound a bit familiar?

In December 1860, South Carolina seceded from the Union in furor over the election of Abraham Lincoln.

Lincoln did not receive 50 percent of the popular vote. He espoused values the state insisted did not reflect its own.

In eerie irony, liberal California is now mirror-imaging the arguments of reactionary South Carolina and other Southern states that vowed to go it alone in 1860 and 1861.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: calexit; california; kalifornia; vdh; victordavishanson
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To: aces

Shouldn’t California liberals be encouraged to secede?

It would allow the US Army to go in and round up a bunch of scum starting with Jerry Brown and then thousands and thousands more.

California would be a solid red state in a year’s time!

What’s not to like?


21 posted on 02/09/2017 6:44:10 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: aces

Part of me wants to agree with you, aces. “Pay your own debts. Good riddance, bon voyage, and Fukushima!”

But they wouldn’t go away, they’d just make more trouble.


22 posted on 02/09/2017 6:47:07 AM PST by Buttons12
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To: PGR88

Calexit, then the “red” counties (near half of the land area 25% of population) can secede from California to form their own state (Jefferson?). Still 50 states plus two GOP senators to replace DemWit ones.

Seems it could be win-win for the U.S.A.


23 posted on 02/09/2017 6:47:34 AM PST by FiddlePig (Who needs Truth & facts when you have narrative?)
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To: Red Badger

“The Lincoln administration required us to raise three regiments; tell him we have done so! Dismissed!”

Stonewall Jackson.


24 posted on 02/09/2017 6:47:37 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: riverrunner

They have one major problem for a successful succession...Marines. And they are not west coast boys, if your are from the east your sent west, if you are from the west you are sent east. Have fun with that one you CA pinko faggots.


25 posted on 02/09/2017 6:47:52 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Kaslin

Okay, Californicatia, AMF!

I’ll grow my own garlic and I can live without your avocados. I don’t drink anymore, so I don’t need your wine and I prefer Maine lobsters to Dungeness crab.

Again, go ahead and leave the Union and pay for your own excesses!


26 posted on 02/09/2017 6:48:08 AM PST by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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To: Kaslin

Their new slave class being illegal immigrants.


27 posted on 02/09/2017 6:48:23 AM PST by Lent
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To: PGR88

Quote:

“They will either become Venezuela within a year, or be forced to become the most conservative, Tea Party country in the world.”

Venezuela would be like a Sunday School picnic compared to the hell-hole that Kalifornia would become if it seceded.


28 posted on 02/09/2017 6:49:09 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: Kaslin

They can’t secede fast enough to suit me.


29 posted on 02/09/2017 6:50:41 AM PST by ontap
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To: Kaslin

Okay, Californicatia, AMF!

I’ll grow my own garlic and I can live without your avocados. I don’t drink anymore, so I don’t need your wine and I prefer Maine lobsters to Dungeness crab.

Again, go ahead and leave the Union and pay for your own excesses!


30 posted on 02/09/2017 6:50:55 AM PST by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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To: riverrunner
Nobody is going to invade CA even if they secede. That is laughable.

I wish there was some way I could help them leave. #CalGone.

31 posted on 02/09/2017 6:51:38 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: NFHale

Can you even imagine the California Army?................


32 posted on 02/09/2017 6:54:14 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: Buttons12

I know you are right, many things would become more difficult logistically.
But many people are tired of bailing out debt as well.
Probably the best thing for theUS would be run out the illegals, reform the welfare schwartzeneggar state, and make the ports federally controlled using civilian contractors. Non union..


33 posted on 02/09/2017 6:55:03 AM PST by aces (Got Jesus?)
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To: central_va

34 posted on 02/09/2017 6:55:39 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: Kaslin

Obviously Victor Davis Hanson does not have a clue about what a Confederate is. It looks ignorant and mean to anyone who actually knows.


35 posted on 02/09/2017 6:56:18 AM PST by pbunyon
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To: Leep

Many are seeking that..


36 posted on 02/09/2017 6:56:21 AM PST by aces (Got Jesus?)
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To: Red Badger

I have an idea...

If Cali libs want to secede, that’s fine. They can do so. They have the right to leave.

But WE keep the Land. The State stays HERE.

They’re free to leave, whenever they want. They can cross into Mexico, resettle there (since they obviously love that culture so much). They can become Mexifornians, Califortinos, or whatever the Hell they want to call themselves. Let Mexico deal with OUR “undocumented immigrants” for once - we’ll gladly hand them over to Mexican benevolence and their welfare system.

But - the state belongs to US, and we’ll resettle it with Americans.

Problem Solved.


37 posted on 02/09/2017 6:57:31 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: silverleaf

If you start shelling them then you have a problem with me. There will be another revolt in the other 49. You warmongers need to know we are a nation of copperheads.


38 posted on 02/09/2017 6:58:03 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

They don’t have to print currency. Just use the old Zimbabwe dollars. It would help stabilize both countries.


39 posted on 02/09/2017 6:59:51 AM PST by Kozy (new age haruspex)
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To: Red Badger

I could care less if CA goes independent. Vaya con Dios Californians.


40 posted on 02/09/2017 7:00:22 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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