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Nate Silver Explains How MSM Helped Hillary Lose Election
NewsBusters ^ | February 7, 2017 | P.J. Gladnick

Posted on 02/07/2017 7:25:30 PM PST by PJ-Comix

Sometimes your best friends can inadvertently become your worst enemies. Such was the case of Hillary Clinton and the mainstream media according to Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight. Most observant people knew that the MSM was all in for Hillary this past election to the extent of acting like cheerleaders for her. So instead of cautioning Hillary when Donald Trump made exactly the right moves to win the necessary electoral votes for victory, they instead mocked him for his ignorance of political campaigning. As a result this gave the Hillary campaign a false sense of security when they should have campaigned more extensively in the previous "blue wall" states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; hillaryclinton; msm; natesilver; picklesclinton
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To: PJ-Comix
The bottom line, Her Heinous lost because enough people realized that she's more full of shiite than every port a potty on Daytona Beach at the end of Bike Week. ba da TSSS!
21 posted on 02/07/2017 7:44:56 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an Islamophobe like it's a bad thing)
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To: gubamyster

OK, now it is the MSM’s fault Hillary lost. So far it has be everybody’s fault except Hillary’s.

Who listens to these so-called experts anymore?


Yep, I wonder about all this angst about Hillary’s loss, and the searching for who or what is to blame.

Nobody ever says the emperor has no clothes. Nobody is willing to say out loud, that Hillary is a bad candidate and a bad politician and a bad campaigner.

of all the post mortems about the election, I have yet to hear anyone in the media say, that Hillary is a lousy candidate for public office. Nobody will say she doesn’t speak well, doesn’t inspire anyone with her bad speechifying, etc. etc.

And perhaps this is due to the limitations of liberal thought.

Obama and other liberals, have said that their side loses elections because they just haven’t done a good enough job of explaining themselves and their positions to the American people.

It never occurs to people such as Obama, that the people are rejecting liberalism and liberal policies. In their minds, liberalism is so obviously superior, that anyone voting against Democrats must be doing so due to lack of understanding what liberalism is all about. In their minds, it’s impossible to consider someone voting against them because they prefer Republican or conservative ideas.


22 posted on 02/07/2017 7:49:05 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Terry Mross
B.S.! Michael Moore warned them in plenty of time.

Good point! And you *know* ol' tubtard wasn't wishing for it to be true.

23 posted on 02/07/2017 7:52:15 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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To: gaijin

Hey...I thought bill clintoon was “bent”.


24 posted on 02/07/2017 7:54:10 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: PJ-Comix
Broadly speaking I agree with Silver here - what you lose when you weaponize the polls is their ability to warn you about negative trends in time to address them, specifically in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. And what you lose when you weaponize the media is their function to honestly reflect what your campaign looks like to the undecided voter. Understand though that these were the fault of neither the pollsters or the media, they were the fault of a campaign staff too imbued with its own sense of inevitability to recognize the warning signs, or a candidate similarly besotted who overruled any warning from her staff. I don't know which of the latter it was, perhaps both.

But Trump's campaign wasn't anything spectacularly original, in fact, it was entirely old-school: rallies and speeches that blew the top off the arenas. Hillary was playing it "smart" in the meantime: her campaign was focused on milking money from wealthy donors and to hell with the unwashed, they'd just come around. Only they didn't. And the upshot was those bathetic scenes of shocked Hillary acolytes watching the returns in the arena, their candidate ensconced in a five-star hotel room, far too engaged in an alcoholic stupor to connect with the voter as she had been all along. A sordid end to a sordid and unworthy campaign, and the end of any "inevitability" illusions.

25 posted on 02/07/2017 7:54:44 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: PJ-Comix

Nate Silver now estimates that Hillary Clinton has a 73.4% chance of winning the White House last November.


26 posted on 02/07/2017 7:58:36 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Terry Mross

Michael Moore was exactly right, but even the left doesn’t listen to the pig.


27 posted on 02/07/2017 8:00:09 PM PST by henkster
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To: PJ-Comix

Hillary setting on her lazy ass is the main reason she lost.


28 posted on 02/07/2017 8:02:22 PM PST by boycott
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To: boycott

Just the opposite. The more Hillary campaigned the less popular she became. The clock went too long. By about a week.


29 posted on 02/07/2017 8:06:00 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: PJ-Comix

I believe this truly is part of the reason Trump beat the odds and won. All conventional wisdom was confounded and none of the old strategies worked. Throughout the primaries and the Fall campaign, everything that had to go right for Trump did. Everything that once worked against conservative and outside candidates failed. Everyone who stood against Trump was knocked down, often in the same manner as they would have felled him. To what end only time will tell, but it was the hand of God that put Donald Trump in office.


30 posted on 02/07/2017 8:10:59 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: PJ-Comix

And I thought somehow Putin had hacked into her campaign schedule.


31 posted on 02/07/2017 8:15:52 PM PST by Rusty0604 (bc)
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To: vette6387

Thanks for using the term. You can learn something new every day. I thought it was “shoe in”, didn’t know it derived from rigging a race by pulling back on the favorite.

From Google.

Shoo-in:

“Origin 1930s: from the earlier use of the term denoting the winner of a rigged horse race.”


32 posted on 02/07/2017 8:18:33 PM PST by map
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To: vette6387

She was leading up till the end.Obamacare did her in because they raised it it.


33 posted on 02/07/2017 8:22:33 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Flick Lives

Yes we were. But more recently many in Hillary’s circle are blaming Barack Obama that he didn’t do enough or did the wrong things or something.


34 posted on 02/07/2017 8:22:42 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: PJ-Comix

I will always think that the two campaigns were working with internals that were closer to reality than the MSM provided. First, why did Hillary cancel her fireworks show a couple of days before the election if she was so sure it was hers? Secondly, I believe Trump’s internals showed that he could take MI if he did more in Grand Rapids. He changed his last stop from WI to MI and had just under 20K people waiting in an airport hangar for him at 1 AM in cold weather. THAT is support! Both had working internals that knew the real story, not the MSM. The press NEVER understood those Trump rallies (the modern whistle-stop campaign)and all those people willing to walk through muck just to see the man. That effort was NEVER built into the polls and many of those folks were first-time voters so never on a polling list.


35 posted on 02/07/2017 8:23:05 PM PST by MHT (,`)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Hillary was so overconfident that the fix was in in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, she didn’t even campaign there much.
She DID campaign in States that weren’t in play because she didn’t want to lose the popular vote.

I suspect greed and vanity may have been a factor. Trump didn't campaign in CA, he chose to spend his time in places where he could win.

Hillary DID visit CA, several times. Why, when you're ahead by double digits?

Money and fame. Big Dem donors, glitzy parties, celebrities groveling at your feet. While she partied, Trump stole the rust belt.

36 posted on 02/07/2017 8:24:37 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: PJ-Comix

I kept trolling Nate on Twitter by pretending to be am angry liberal. I kept posting “Nate, this is ALL YOUR FAULT!! You made everyone have a fake sense of security!”

Maybe he took it to heart.


37 posted on 02/07/2017 8:29:11 PM PST by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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To: PJ-Comix

Last thing anyone needs is Nate-splainin’...


38 posted on 02/07/2017 8:29:28 PM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: PJ-Comix

Please, the uniparty media did absolutely everything to get her elected, and did everything it could do to sink trump.


39 posted on 02/07/2017 8:35:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PJ-Comix

The media, like the Clinton insiders, are delusional. Neither took Trump seriously, long after they should have reassessed. It was a classic tortoise-v-hare situation, hares are pros, they’re experienced, they are born to run and they WIN; the idea of being beaten by an amateur, was simply unthinkable.

The media elite also regards the GOP as a hapless, helpless, graceless creature, doomed to fail. Watch the election night videos on youtube. At the start of the evening they are commenting on the shortcomings of the Republican Party, and expressing concern for its future; it is discredited, it is fractured, it is abandoned by sophisticated voters. A few hours later, this party has control of the Executive and the Legislature, and a Republican POTUS will be selecting justices on the Supreme Court and elsewhere, while a majority of the state governors are Republican. What the talking heads believed was the exact opposite of the truth.

Hillary inevitability. Climate change. Republicans are going extinct. Obama is brilliant. Gore won. These are out and out delusions.


40 posted on 02/07/2017 8:38:31 PM PST by Buttons12
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