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1 posted on 01/03/2017 8:10:09 AM PST by xzins
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I would suggest that Trump has sources around the world outside of US government channels.


2 posted on 01/03/2017 8:10:45 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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Hussein, still a cunning liar.


3 posted on 01/03/2017 8:11:16 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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The whole miserable lie was invented by American Leftists bitter that Trump won, and doing their best to lash out at him.


4 posted on 01/03/2017 8:12:15 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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The fact that NO certifiable evidence has been put forth is proof these claims are BS. I don’t care if the CIA, FBI, DOJ and NSA swear to it - even McCain and Graham. It doesn’t matter. If they won’t provide CLEAR PROOF then all this hooha is BS, period.


5 posted on 01/03/2017 8:12:40 AM PST by Gaffer
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MSMLSD: Who’re you going to believe? Your evidence to the contrary or our lying statements.


6 posted on 01/03/2017 8:13:12 AM PST by SkyDancer (Ambition Without Talent Is Sad, Talent Without Ambition Is Worse)
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I would say the intelligence community that is not subject to political pressure is going to make itself heard


9 posted on 01/03/2017 8:15:27 AM PST by McGavin999
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Chinese and Russian hackers have cracked into State Department and Pentagon computers and have vacuumed out all kinds of information, and Obama just shrugged.

But Podesta’s emails? Stop the presses! This is war!


12 posted on 01/03/2017 8:16:30 AM PST by marron
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Obama setting up impediments for Trump, trying to slow down his administration and their ability to get things done in a timely fashion........

Obama's legacy, his deliberate obstacles will overshadow any other is Barack's ungentlemanly, lack of class in the transferring of the presidency will follow him for the rest of his life...and that of his wife and daughters.

24 posted on 01/03/2017 8:29:16 AM PST by yoe (USA do not let BHO further divide this nation as he "hangs around.....")
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Trump has to be careful about how he plays this. There may be evidence that Russia phished for DNC and RNC emails. But that doesn’t mean much. The US has done much more than that (listening in on foreign leader’s calls). That is all just part of the espionage game. We want to prevent it but getting outraged over it is silly. But there is zero evidence that Russia “hacked the election” as if they were able to change votes through some hacking scheme.


25 posted on 01/03/2017 8:33:09 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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We need to be hammering this point more - the Chinese hacked actual FedGov systems, not a political party’s. Why aren’t we talking about that more? Why weren’t their diplomats expelled, and sanctions put in place? From June:

Chinese breach data of 4 million federal workers
http://tinyurl.com/h5pxm2x

“Hackers working for the Chinese state breached the computer system of the Office of Personnel Management in December, U.S. officials said Thursday, and the agency will notify about 4 million current and former federal employees that their personal data may have been compromised.”

This was a hack of actual FedGov systems, resulting in a very damaging data release. NOT just some emails being released from Dem campaign operatives. No response that I know of in the Chinese case.

Do we need any more proof that the response to this supposed Russian phishing event is about domestic politics?

Additionally, Tucker Carlson asks the tough question, exactly what information revealed in the leaked emails should the American people not have known before the election? The Dems don’t want to answer that.


26 posted on 01/03/2017 8:35:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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"zero evidence that Russia influenced the election"

This can be taken on three levels:

1. There is zero evidence that Russia hacked the DNC or Podesta.

2. Regardless of who hacked the DNC and Podesta, it made no difference in the outcome of the election.

3. Regardless of who hacked the emails, they were authentic documents - not faked - so their exposure actually gave voters more information and allowed them to make a more accurate assessment of the candidates and what they stood for. The hackers were doing the job the MSM refused to do, giving the voters a more balanced picture of the candidates.

Most of the debate centers on #1, but #2 and #3 also need to be addressed. Is there, in fact, any evidence that significant numbers of votes changed because of the hacks, and was the number sufficient to sway the election?

My view is that most people who paid close attention to the content of the hacks were already predisposed to vote against Hillary, and that fence-sitters usually don't dig very deep for information.

The release of the leaks was paralleled by a media effort to push back, first by ignoring them, then by dismissing their importance, then by attacking the leakers. Probably less than 5% of the voters were poring over the content of specific emails, and that group largely consisted of pre-existing Hillary critics and Hillary defenders. The average person looked on from afar. But if people were influenced by the hacks, it was because they had more information, not less.
27 posted on 01/03/2017 8:38:07 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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DC has become a freak show: politicized law enforcement, intelligence and tax gathering. This DC must be dismantled, aggressively.


32 posted on 01/03/2017 8:52:54 AM PST by veracious
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Seems like there is net negative evidence.


34 posted on 01/03/2017 9:06:19 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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The United States government has for decades intercepted the communications of foreign officials. Does anyone dispute this? Is this not a core purpose of the NSA? Even if the Russian government was behind the phishing of John Podesta’s emails, how is this qualitatively different than the US (and sometimes its allied parties in Echelon etc...) intercepting Russian officials’ emails or phone calls? Per Wikileaks, the US Government, including under Obama, even tapped the communications of allies like Frau Merkel. So I do not see how foreign intrusion into US emails is anything other than completely standard intelligence operations that we are as “guilty” of than anyone (and we are likely more “guilty” of this than anyone since our capabilities are presumably the greatest).

So the real issue is not the Russians (or whomever it was) capturing Podesta’s emails. The Dems lost no sleep over the emails being intercepted but what really drives them nuts is that the American people got to see them.


36 posted on 01/03/2017 9:29:45 AM PST by Stingray51
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there's still 'zero evidence' Russia influenced presidential election

17 more days of this media blitz of fake news -- the whole purpose of which is to distract from the overt treasonous acts of the current administration, the Clinton crime syndicate, and RINOs such as McCain and Graham.

So many more, but Trump should clean house from the top down.

42 posted on 01/03/2017 10:14:38 AM PST by meadsjn
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Not only Trump’s spokesman, but many of us who are not democrats have said the same thing.
Democrats on the other hand, will continue with the talking points until it wears itself out after the inauguration.
Somehow they know too, but like the internet video that the democrats said caused Benghazi, they will continue until it wears itself out.


48 posted on 01/03/2017 2:23:09 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (EEe)
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