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Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million
UK Daily Mail ^ | 12/21/2016 | DAVID MARTOSKO, US POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

Posted on 12/21/2016 8:53:13 AM PST by Prov1322

Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York Clinton won California by 4.2 million votes and New York by 1.6 million, running up the score in places where she would have won no matter what Outside of those two liberal states, Trump was 3 million votes ahead California alone accounted for more than Clinton's national popular-vote edge Newt Gingrich mocked: 'This is football season. A team can have more yards and lose the game. What matters is how many points you put on the board'

PUBLISHED: 09:01 EST, 21 December 2016 | UPDATED: 10:41 EST, 21 December 2016

Final vote tallies from the November 8 election show that Democrat Hillary Clinton out-polled President-elect Donald Trump by 2.8 million votes while losing the contest by a wide margin in the all-important Electoral College.

Her upper hand with voters, however, came down to performances in New York and California that were far stronger than necessary.

Clinton won California by 4.2 million and took New York by more than 1.6 million. The combined 5.8 million-vote advantage in just those two states was more than twice the size of her overall edge nationwide.

When the dust settled, she lost the rest of the country by 3 million votes.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: calexit; california; electoralcollege; newyork; peotus; popularvote; tally; trumptransition; votes
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To: Getready

I’m ok with a county by county new US of A.


41 posted on 12/21/2016 10:26:07 AM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: wiseprince

She is into maximizing monetary input...so she lost...she is gonna try and take positions that many suckers will give her money to publicly espouse. She will probably run for congresswomen in cal or ny...she probably needs plausible protection on a federal level from all those she has swindled in the past


42 posted on 12/21/2016 10:29:36 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Prov1322

On the radio...
Exclude NYC and LA county, Trump wins popular vote by 50k.


43 posted on 12/21/2016 10:36:07 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Prov1322

I would love if Trump actually takes on vote fraud. We are one of the few nations that don’t require voting IDs. Why??? Oh... Democrats. Not only illegal aliens, but the snowbirds who have a house in Jersey, and a condo in Florida, who vote in both states.


44 posted on 12/21/2016 10:48:45 AM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Prov1322

Get rid of the Electoral College and these two states will dominate the other 48.


45 posted on 12/21/2016 10:52:03 AM PST by CptnObvious
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To: Prov1322

The Hillary campaign, like the idiots they were, assumed the Electoral College was there’s. So they took the Trump Troll Bait and went for the popular vote win. The bait was Trump contesting the election results. He never was planning to actually do that. Fools. The Left and the Neocons need to realize they are out of their League. The real adults have returned.


46 posted on 12/21/2016 10:59:05 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Prov1322

Liberals want us too live in a real life Hunger Games.

The ruling “District” sets the rules for all the other Districts.

Donald Sutherland for President!


47 posted on 12/21/2016 11:07:22 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: Prov1322

Did you know that if you added up the 2015 “estimated” population of the twenty-two states (including non-voting DC) with lowest population it totals 36,738,123?

The 2015 estimated (legal?) population total in California is 39,144,818.

CA has a 2015 estimate of 2,406,695 more people than TWENTY-TWO states combined. (I am aware that DC is not a state - but they are pushing for a vote, so I included them)

So, if I do a goofy thing and pretend that every single person in CA is legal to vote and all cast their vote for Hillary, then I pretend that all the people in the other twenty-one states and DC are eligible to vote and they all cast their votes for Trump. Hillary would have 2,406,695 MORE votes than Trump. Which is quite close to the number of “popular” votes she received over Trumps total, LOL.

THIS is why we should fight to retain the electoral collage.


48 posted on 12/21/2016 11:09:54 AM PST by Ladysforest (Racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia and vulgarity - with just a smattering of threats and violence)
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To: Ragnar54
Congress should investigate the vote fraud. In the case of California, there is strong evidence of a foreign power (Mexico) meddling in the election.

The Trump administration does need to investigate voter fraud.

Anything short of that is business as usual. Anything short of that and all that Trump accomplishes will be washed away in the next election cycle.

49 posted on 12/21/2016 11:15:11 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Prov1322

I sure hope I never have to kneel to the likes of moonbeam brown nose or deblasio. Without the EC, that’s exactly what will happen.


50 posted on 12/21/2016 11:16:22 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Prov1322

Even if you include NY in the tally, Trump still won the popular vote by 1.4 million votes across 49 out of 50 states.

California has been discussing secession. The rest of the country ought to do everything it can to encourage it.


51 posted on 12/21/2016 12:03:37 PM PST by sdthree
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To: sdthree
Rather than give up on California, we should take California back. Close the border and require voter ID for all border states (in the interest of national security). Voter registration should also require an ID and proof of citizenship. Online registrations should be voided. Congress would have to impeach the federal judges who ruled against voter id for multiple states this year.


52 posted on 12/21/2016 12:46:54 PM PST by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy and Al Qaeda's financier)
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To: Logical me

supposedly over 3 million illegals voted in California...I believe it


53 posted on 12/21/2016 12:52:53 PM PST by Stayfree (LIBERALISM & STUPIDITY ARE BOTH INCURABLE MENTAL DISEASES OFTEN FOUND TOGETHER!)
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To: dp0622

So, Trump lost the *official popular vote by 2.8 million, but after you subtract the 5 million illegal votes in big cities and California, he WON it by 2.2 million.


54 posted on 12/21/2016 2:48:13 PM PST by alstewartfan (I sit here by the banks of the Rhine Dipping my feet in the cold stream of time. 1934 by Al Stewart)
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To: Prov1322

So either he was really really reviled in California, or CA was just the easiest state to cheat in. The swing states were too hard to penetrate with dead or illegal voters, and the polls were watched very very carefully.


55 posted on 12/21/2016 3:25:46 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: alstewartfan
but after you subtract the 5 million illegal votes in big cities and California,

And that five million should be an offer to the democrats. Concede this many votes, or were doing an audit. We just happen to have a lot of IRS agents that are going to need something to do come January. We can let them count the votes.

56 posted on 12/21/2016 3:34:31 PM PST by V1Rotate
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To: V1Rotate

Don’t tell the grammar police!

I meant we’re going to do an audit.


57 posted on 12/21/2016 3:36:52 PM PST by V1Rotate
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To: Coffee_drinker; All

52.5 per cent voted against Hillary.....54 per cent voted against Trump...if you also consider those voting for third parties. No one “won” the over all popular vote though it could be shown that Hillary had the larger plurality vote over Trump. If we had coalition power sharing built into the constitution that allowed a more “direct democracy” then the third parties would have been approached by Trump or Hillary for their votes in order for one or other to be able to “form” a government. Hence the dreaded “factionalism” that the founders so feared! The EC is genius!


58 posted on 12/21/2016 4:57:16 PM PST by mdmathis6 (BEWARE THE ABORTION POLITICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!)
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To: Prov1322

When the dust settled, she lost the rest of the country by 3 million votes.
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Yes. Great line. Whenever in the future I am discussing the election, and the popular vote is mentioned, I will immediately make the very important and truthful distinction between the LEGAL popular vote won by President Trump and the ILLEGAL popular vote won by Mrs. Clinton. I think we should always make that truthful clarification.


59 posted on 12/21/2016 5:50:50 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Make nice with your enemies and you will live to regret it.)
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To: Prov1322
Her upper hand with voters, however, came down to performances in New York and California that were far stronger than necessary. Clinton won California by 4.2 million and took New York by more than 1.6 million. The combined 5.8 million-vote advantage in just those two states was more than twice the size of her overall edge nationwide. When the dust settled, she lost the rest of the country by 3 million votes. (Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...

This is finally out, and what I've been saying since the day after the election. I was watching the popular vote tally and Trump was ahead until early in the morning the following day when Cali was tallied. If flipped to her, and grew steadily as Cali counted their mail-in ballots. WE NEED THIS TO BE REPEATED BY RUSH AND SEAN, and OTHERS.
60 posted on 12/21/2016 5:55:16 PM PST by snarkytart
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