Posted on 12/06/2016 9:12:49 AM PST by lionstar
The Michigan recount finished its first day, and there were already reports that half of Detroits votes might not be recounted, as well as other problems with ballots.
The reason so many Detroit ballots could get left out of the recount: The number of ballots listed in poll books is not the same as the totals given on machine printouts.
Clinton rang up huge margins in Wayne County, home to populous Detroit, and she would likely need her margin there to grow in order to shrink Trumps 10,704 vote margin in Michigan. Clinton received 66 percent of the Wayne County vote on November 8.
The news of the Detroit problems broke in the Detroit News on December 5 as two Michigan counties started recounting ballots from the 2016 presidential election. The newspaper reported that one-third of precincts in Wayne County could be disqualified from the recount because of ballot problems. According to the newspaper, officials couldnt reconcile vote totals for 610 of 1,680 precincts during last months countywide canvass of Election Day returns, adding that most are in Clinton stronghold Detroit, where the number of ballots in precinct poll books did not match those of voting machine printout reports in 59 percent of precincts, 392 of 662.
The Detroit Free Press quoted an expert who questioned the Michigan recount law, which varies from other states in that, if there is a discrepancy between the number of ballots and those listed in poll books, a recount can not be done in that precinct, and original results stand if the difference is not explained to the satisfaction of the board of canvassers. This happened on day 1 of the Michigan recount, when a Rochester Hills precinct could not be recounted because of a missing ballot, said the newspaper.
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Michigan does require ID, maybe that law slides in Detroit. Gross fraud and incompetence.
And if you don’t maintain them??? Even a newer machine will malfunction if not properly stored or serviced.
Sure, I just didn’t like the Guardian’s narrative...
The Trump Train continues to keep on steam Rollin’!!
This is backfiring on the SLUDGE party which pleases me immensely
When I was a pole watcher evey one was watching like hawks.
When I saw a black woman come in saying she wanted to vote, she asked if one of the white guys would help her read the ballot. He said he would do that and then, in front of everybody, he asked if she wanted to vote Democrat (he asked her nothing else). She said yes. He then took her hand and as she gripped the pencil (yes, pencil)tightly he pulled her hand down the page hitting every appropriate Dem circle. So she got to vote and I reported him.
I was never asked to poll watch again.
This is why Bobo has played the sanguine role: he knows we beat their fraud with our Monster Vote; and if he is going to lead The Dems further into the wilderness, he cannot afford to have the fraud uncovered.
Per another story:
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/05/recount-unrecountable/95007392/
“87 optical scanners broke on Election Day. Many jammed when voters fed ballots into scanners, which can result in erroneous vote counts if ballots are inserted multiple times.”
My interpretation: The fine people of Detroit have discovered a way to pull the ballot out of the scanner at the last second, and re-insert it, and get a double vote. And enough people were doing this to accidentally jam 87 machines. Stands to reason that each jammed machine would have at most, one over-vote. Sounds like the discrepancy is more than that - pointing to a widespread use of this ‘trick’.
Any bets on whether the reporter skipped over dozens of precicnts with thousands of extra ballots to use one precinct with a missing ballot as the example? One missing ballot is easy to explain, even by a voter signing in and then leaving to avoid a line. Extra votes? Not so easy to explain.
It would be sweet irony if the leftists' attempt to steal an election at the last second exposes their whole ballot stuffing machine.
Same as Bush v Gore, delegitimize Trump's win. It's the same playbook just a different drill: here Hillarystein is attempting to exploit the well-known weakness in electoral law by the fact that safe harbor date arrives so quickly after the election.
Thanks for the clarifications; I want this over and done with...
I’m sick n tired of democrat/loony tactics!
Scenario: 500 ballots turned in at a particular precinct. According to the machine, 400 voted for Hillary and 200 voted for Trump. This totals 600 votes.
So, the machine says 600 people voted but there are only 500 ballots. Therefore, the 400 vs 200 stands and a recount can not be done.
The real question is, why don’t the numbers match?
My take is that it might be fun to actually count the ballots and ignore the machine results.
That's virtually a certainty.
“It means they had a lot more votes on the machines than they had signed in on the registers.”
That suggests crooked precinct watchers -—the people in control of the registers and the machines apparently just locked the doors and entered a bunch of additional votes into the machines.
And their candidate Jillary has gotten them caught. Oh, the irony.
What does this mean?
Vote Fraud
People inside the system were casting votes for people who never showed up to vote
I agree, and ALL states need to take this as a heads-up to get their election and recount procedures in order. Wisconsin did so in 2011 after the first statewide recount in 100+ years and has tweaked it again, and will again after this. It should represent “best practices”.
No state should allow a recount unless there is substantial evidence that fraud or error has occurred, and should be limited to only those candidates who have a reasonable probability of winning in a recount. In other words, not Stein.
I think this is a win for us. Now, the fraudulent votes already tabulated will count, but Hilary’s people cannot manufacture MORE votes via a recount. And this was probably her best chance to do so...
If your like your fraudulent votes, you can keep your fraudulent votes.
Michigan house just passed frivolous recount bill. Retroactive.
Haha!!! Get ready to open the wallet Jill!!
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