More White People Are Dying Than Are Being Born in 17 States

Time ^ | 11-29-2016 | Josh Sanburn

[brucedickinson]

More white Americans are now dying than being born in a third of U.S. states, according to a study released Tuesday, which shows white deaths outpacing births in a record 17 states stretching from California to Maine.

The study, by the University of New Hampshire, found natural decreases in the white population across 17 states in 2014, including Florida, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and West Virginia, which together comprise 38% of the U.S. population. That’s a big shift from 2004 when only four states had more white deaths than births. The declines, exacerbated by the Great Recession, are largely driven by an aging white population, fewer women of childbearing age, and lower fertility rates overall, according to researchers.

[amnestynone]

The white deaths in west Virginia and Pennsylvania have to do with younger persons leaving the states. Florida is obvious and is related to retirees. When it is actually a case of white population loss from fertility it is probably white libs losing it.

[amnestynone]

The white deaths in west Virginia and Pennsylvania have to do with younger persons leaving the states. Florida is obvious and is related to retirees. When it is actually a case of white population loss from fertility it is probably white libs losing it.

[RU88]

You are absolutely right in that observation!

[Alberta's Child]

Your assessment is flat-out wrong.

The information you've presented demonstrates why minority populations are growing, both in real numbers as well as in terms of their percentage of the overall population. But that has nothing to do with the point this article is making. The change in the population of white people -- just in actual numbers -- has absolutely nothing to do with growing minority populations. This trend would be occurring regardless of whether this country had 35 million immigrants since 1990 or 0 immigrants in the same period.

The evidence here is that the 17 states where the white population is declining includes some -- like California and New Mexico -- that are rapidly becoming Northern Mexico, and others -- like West Virginia and Pennsylvania -- that have some of the smallest immigrant populations in the country.

[trebb]

Agreed - plus some theologian types I know say that God has already stated that there will be a drop off in birth rates/populations as we near the time of His return. The world is becoming soul-sick as it degenerates towards the cesspool it will become. While certain of the non-Christians do their best to overwhelm the world by sheer numbers, I don’t imagine they will see the fruition of their plans.

[tbw2]

The statistical lies of “it costs 250,000, half a million dollars to raise a baby” scares many people from having children or more than one.
I’ve brought up that if it truly cost that much, the poor couldn’t afford to have any, but logic doesn’t apply - liberals just inflated the numbers to scare the responsible middle class from having larger families.

[tbw2]

Only because we count preemies who die as births, where other nations count them as stillbirths.
And those stats are inflated by blacks (higher rates of preemies, complications) and people who come across the border to have the baby on our dime but didn’t have American prenatal care.
If you compare whites in America to those in Europe and Cuba, we have equally good educational and health outcomes. Diversity pulls down our stats.

[tbw2]

I have had arguments with women who do that and call themselves “pet parents” when I say the term should be reserved for real parents of children.
This is proof the instinct is present and gets perverted in the absence of the real thing.

[Morpheus2009]

Over what period of time? Is the question that I pose in return. The number is far less formidable when you divide it by even as much as 18 years. The other part is that being in accounting, I get very skeptical and analytical when it comes to figures and statistics.

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

Tax-chick :" The presence of non-white people is not the driver of white births or deaths.
The statistics in this article were NOT comparative; they considered only the white population"

Consider the source - "Time" is a globalist publication with an agenda. The study, itself, is accurate.
Why should any population increase when they know the government is lying about unemployment, and there is a dirth of jobs ?
Manufacturing is dying in the USA, and encouraged by the FED, we have become a service society, and that does not create income, it merely spreads it around.
There is no motivation to increase numbers or perogeny; parenting is considered a liability, rather than an asset, except in some minority populations.
We are funding failed schools in the public sector, which are actually indoctrination centers for progressive/liberalism/socialism .
Where is the incentive ?
Loss of family income, dysfunctional school systems, lack of opportunity, loss of manufacturing jobs,etc.- now you tell me what is the upside (?)
and why should I have more kids that I can ill afford on my limited income, with increased taxes, and has more liabilities than a productive future ?

[kabar]

Uh where did you come up with this crap?

[kabar]

From the article:

The study, by the University of New Hampshire, found natural decreases in the white population across 17 states in 2014, including Florida, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and West Virginia, which together comprise 38% of the U.S. population. That’s a big shift from 2004 when only four states had more white deaths than births. The declines, exacerbated by the Great Recession, are largely driven by an aging white population, fewer women of childbearing age, and lower fertility rates overall, according to researchers.

“The white population isn’t replacing itself,” says Ken Johnson, a University of New Hampshire demographer and co-author of the study. “That accelerates the growing diversity of the American population.”

Non-Hispanic whites are declining as a percentage of the population and they are aging and dying and not being replaced due to low fertility rates. Couple that with the highest three decades of legal immigration in our history and you see why non-Hispanic whites are declining in population as well as a percentage of the total population. It is not mainly due to your contention that whites are migrating from these 17 states elsewhere.

The evidence here is that the 17 states where the white population is declining includes some -- like California and New Mexico -- that are rapidly becoming Northern Mexico, and others -- like West Virginia and Pennsylvania -- that have some of the smallest immigrant populations in the country.

Here is the median age by state in the US. Note that the ten oldest states in the country are Maine, Vermont, West Virginia, New Hampshire, Florida, PA, CT, Montana, RI, and MA. Except for FL and MA, they have low minority populations and fewer immigrants.

[napscoordinator]

Supposedly the Generation Y is even larger. Hopefully they will be a better generation then millenials and baby boomers.

[tbw2]

18 years
At least, that’s what a recent USDA report says about the costs of raising a child. Specifically, if you’re a middle-income, two-parent family

[Tax-chick]

The study, itself, is accurate.

Indeed, I assumed so and did not question this. My response was about interpretation.

One characteristic of intergroup conflict is that one group often considers another to be BOTH inferior AND in control of everything. In my opinion, your long list belongs in that category.

If "white people" genuinely believe that their most significant choices in life are entirely controlled by others, and they choose extinction, then that says something.

[Morpheus2009]

I will take a look at the USA and see 2 hat assumptions they are making. It is complicated, to be sure. The first of my boys I would say costed more than the second so far. Since they are saying 18 years, it is also safe to say that they are including freshman year of college, but 250,000 divided by 18 is. The number I came up with per year is 13,889.00 rounded off to the nearest dollar

[Cronos]

Correct. But even more so there will be tons of mixed marriages -- there are few "pure" Mexicans, there will be few "pure" blacks or anyone else.

The USA is changing into a distinctive "single race, single nation under God" - and under Trump it will be one God -- the Judeo-Christian god.