Posted on 11/29/2016 6:49:51 PM PST by drewh
MADISON, Wis. (WBAY) A Dane County judge has knocked down Jill Steins request to conduct Wisconsins recount exclusively by hand to rule out any electronic tampering with the results.
Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn said Steins experts couldnt present clear and convincing evidence that Wisconsin voting equipment was compromised, only that it was possible.
A hand recount is the gold standard, its the best we can do. I dont think theres any dispute to that, the judge said, and she noted theres no difference in cost to taxpayers since the campaign pays for it. However, its not the courts decision to decide the best way I have to do what the law tells me to do.
The ruling came four hours after the hearing began, and after the judge took a brief recess around 8 p.m.
Stein says there were statistical anomalies in results where voters used electronic voting machines. Attorneys for her campaign called several witnesses to support their claim that hackers might have launched a cyber attack or planted malicious software that changed the outcome of the race.
A University of Michigan professor whos an expert on cyber security testified that its possible and that the Wisconsin Elections Commission doesnt have enough protocols in place to prevent hacking.
The elections commission has said theres no evidence of hacking or voter fraud, and that a hand recount would take a long time and a lot of people to do it.
I will allow the 19 counties to do the recount the way they intended. I think everyone strongly encourages them to do the recount by hand, but it is there decision, Bailey-Rihn said.
Steins Green Party wired the state nearly $3.5 million Tuesday afternoon before the 4:30 p.m. deadline to begin the Wisconsin recount.
The Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) denied her request for a hand count, saying state law gives clerks the power to decide how to recount the ballots especially in light of the number of votes that need to be counted before the federal deadline of December 13. Steins campaign responded with a civil lawsuit to seek a court order.
Tuesday afternoon the WEC confirmed it made a calculation error when it added up the estimates from county clerks on how much the recount would cost in their county. The elections commission should have quoted $3.9 million it was off by $400,000.
The WEC says regardless of its mistake, Stein will have to pay whatever the total cost is. For now the campaign was only required to pay the $3.5 million that was quoted.
If the actually cost comes in higher, her campaign will have to pay the difference; if the cost comes in lower, the campaign will be refunded the difference.
Until the counties have actual costs, not estimates, the state will hold all of the money. Thats causing some concern for Fond du Lac County Clerk Lisa Freiberg, who says the county will likely spend $30,000 on the recount.
While state statute says the county will be reimbursed, theres no timeline for the county to get its money.
My election canvassers and board of canvass will expect payment, of course, and Im expecting that money will be spent out before its coming back in, Freiberg said.
Its laid out in statutes. I dont know the exact timeline when it will happen, but theyll have to actually submit costs to us and we will pay them as soon as we can, the WECs Reid Magney said.
That means the money will come out of the countys budget, which is paid for by taxpayers, until the reimbursement is received.
Republican Party of Wisconsin Executive Director Mark Morgan issued a statement Tuesday night on the recount:
Republican Party of Wisconsin Executive Director Mark Morgan released the following statement:
This recount is nothing more than one final, desperate attempt by Wisconsin Democrats to change the outcome of the election. There is no justification for a recount and this is precisely the kind of underhanded political tactics that the voters of Wisconsin rejected on November 8th. While Hillary Clinton and her liberal allies are focused on undoing the will of the voters, we remain committed to protecting the integrity of the election process here in Wisconsin. The Green Party was also raising money for recounts in Michigan and Pennsylvania.
A hearing is scheduled in Pennsylvania on December 5 on Steins request for a court order to force a recount.
If she was close, I could see it. She has no standing. She can’t benefit from this. She is not the party that should be asking for recounts.
All the states should have laws that forbid this sort of thing.
I would encourage all 57 states to implement them if they don’t already.
“:^)
FR pessimists—I told you so!!!!
PA will go even worse for them! But it should have been settled by tomorrow—not next Monday!
I will allow the 19 counties to do the recount the way they intended. I think everyone strongly encourages them to do the recount by hand, but it is there decision, Bailey-Rihn said.
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No, not everyone. The judge sounds like a partisan, who’d love to order what the crazy Stein wants, but she probably figures that she’d get slapped down hard on appeal.
Churchill:
There are lies,...damned lies
and statistics.
Libs like to hang on to “statistical anomalies” because they don’t have a good grasp of math.
Anomalous vote totals, cancer spots, high school reading and math abilities, record high temperatures, deficit spending effects, etc.
Not tired of winning.
MOAR WINNING :D
The machine recount will begin and will be completed on time.
Stein’s request for dilatory proceedings where denied by the court.
We’ll have the result certified before December 13.
Trump looks very confident and comfortable in that photo. Romney looks like he’s getting clobbered.
Romney will be appointed shithouse lawyer.
Will someone send this witch her participation certificate...
We’ve just barely begun to win!!!!
But I NEVER get tired of winning!!!!
Wisconsin law gives every candidate the right to buy a recount, no matter the margin.
That’s too bad. Maybe WI legislature can change this law.
Would have to go through a few layers to get that far. If scotus would split, it would uphold whatever lower court decision was appealed to get it to scotus in the first place, I think.
Heard that the WI Legislators have a bill for new year that will allow only recounts by the top two candidates and then if only the margin is <1%
No, just not all hand recounts. Some by machine and smaller districts will probably by hand. Still will go on unless Stein withdraws the petition.
And maybe that made sense years ago. In this climate of corruption and gamesmanship, I think it would be best to keep this limited to parties with a stake in the outcome.
Perhaps there’s a good reason for it. I could be persuaded with a logical opposing opinion.
Donald Trump Singing All I Do Is Win by DJ Khaled https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgda5GGExNs
BUMP! That is EXACTLY and ONLY what this is all about.
“The only reason Trump is President is because Republicans have a majority in the House and Senate.”
This crap won't work against him; just as everything they threw at him, these last 2 years hasn't worked at all.
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