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Recounts Rarely Reverse Election Results
FiveThirtyEight.com ^ | November 27, 2016 | Carl Bialik

Posted on 11/27/2016 1:31:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

The Wisconsin vote in the presidential election is undergoing a recount. Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who requested the Wisconsin recount, also has raised funds for a recount in Pennsylvania and is seeking more funds for one in Michigan and possibly other states. Could the recounts possibly change the outcome in any of the states? Not if they go anything like statewide recounts over the last 16 years.

Recounts typically don’t swing enough votes to change the winner. Out of 4,687 statewide general elections between 2000 and 2015, just 27 were followed by recounts, according to data compiled by FairVote, a nonpartisan group that researches elections and promotes electoral reform. Just three of those 27 recounts resulted in a change in the outcome, all leading to wins for Democrats: Al Franken’s win in Minnesota’s 2008 U.S. Senate race, Thomas M. Salmon’s win in Vermont’s 2006 auditor election and Christine Gregoire’s win in Washington’s 2004 gubernatorial race.

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There is no way that this recount is going to change anything.


21 posted on 11/27/2016 1:48:33 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Busted! Jill Stein’s Election Recount Is Being Paid For By a Bot!

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=50879

Roger Stone on Twitter: “Jill Stein “recount funded by Soros

https://mobile.twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/802230392493404160


22 posted on 11/27/2016 1:49:06 PM PST by Democrat_media (bots are donating to Jill Stein's website for the recount. Soros behind big scheme)
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To: SamAdams76

i see how you could interpret it that way, sorry for that

i just am waiting to see the Trump team’s actual response is all

which should be forthcoming soon
so we don’t have to argue about it, by the time we decide to agree that we already agree, ha ...... we will see the Trump team’s responses

thanks


23 posted on 11/27/2016 1:53:47 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero. $500for an appraisal of gen on)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The left doubts that they can reverse the results. It's not about that. It's about delegitimizing the administration of Donald Trump - Just as the "dark" meme that appeared at the end of the convention was. Just as the "The transition is in a state of chaos" meme was. Just as the "Steve Bannon is a 'white nationalist' and just maybe a Nazi" meme was.

For the left it's a MinMax solution. They lost but if they can motivate their base and delegitimize Trump maybe they can convert the anger into serious opposition to a supreme court appointment or something else beneficial to their cause.

The last time the left sought to deligitimize a Republican president they had considerable success. In 2000 they were able to disrupt the transition, delay numerous presidential appointments and convince Al Qaeda that George Bush was a weak leader who would not be able to respond strongly to a major terrorist attack on US soil. The result was 9/11 and the wars that we are still fighting that resulted from the attack.

The leftist are not the "loyal opposition". They are evil. In order to regain power they are willing to do serious harm to our country.

24 posted on 11/27/2016 1:55:19 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Proudly deplorable since 2016. Lock Her Up!!!)
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To: fhayek

They claim to swing tens of thousands of votes in multiple states and try to steal the election, it’s on.


25 posted on 11/27/2016 1:57:07 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: neocon1984
conservative libertarian

No such thing. The terms are mutually exclusive.

26 posted on 11/27/2016 2:02:25 PM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: neocon1984

It is bloodsport. I think, on some level, Trump understands this. Democrats never seem to have to pay the price for any of their “transgressions”. I think that Donald Trump may just understand the need to, as one of my eloquent ‘flyover country’ friends used to say, put the pork to them.


27 posted on 11/27/2016 2:11:18 PM PST by fhayek
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To: faithhopecharity
Franken's seat was not "stolen by the recount" at all. Read up on that election debacle before you post such nonsense here.

The election was likely marked by a lot of voter fraud, but that involved questionable voter registrations and felons voting illegally. There was no "fraud" in the recount process. Coleman was ahead by several hundred votes when the polls closed on Election Day and the initial ballot count was completed, but there were about 1,500 ballots that had been disqualified or contested that still had to be examined carefully before a final determination could be made about their status. Most of those ballots were counted as legitimate votes, and that's what put Franken over the top.

There are no "new ballots" found in closets or car trunks after Election Day that end up getting included in a recount. That's a silly myth that has been posted here repeatedly on FR over the last few days.

28 posted on 11/27/2016 2:12:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: fhayek
"...put the pork to them."

Is that the same as "layin' a little schlongin' on 'em"?

29 posted on 11/27/2016 2:13:00 PM PST by BlueLancer ("If the present tries to sit in judgment on the past, it will lose the future." Winston Churchill)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Franken had to make up 700 votes,Gregoire had to make up 260,VT race 130, Hillary needs 130,000. Everybody calm down


30 posted on 11/27/2016 2:13:21 PM PST by Emergencyawesome
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To: faithhopecharity

They already know they will ALL be prosecuted, so they have nothing to lose, besides it takes the pedophile issue out of the news.


31 posted on 11/27/2016 2:13:22 PM PST by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: Emergencyawesome

Sorry she needs 140,000


32 posted on 11/27/2016 2:14:44 PM PST by Emergencyawesome
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To: LouAvul
No such thing. The terms are mutually exclusive.

Only to someone who fails to comprehend English and simple logic.

33 posted on 11/27/2016 2:16:00 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: fhayek

Yes. The price may be a push for a national voter ID law to secure our elections.

There goes California!


34 posted on 11/27/2016 2:17:13 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: stockpirate

hummmm....you could be correct

(Trump did say he didn’t plan to prosecute HilLIARy...but then these silly recount requests got afoot and HilLIARy’s indicated she’s joined in them....she’s a part of them. Interestingly, step three in this sequence?....is that Mr Trump’s people today say that her prosection could now still go foward after all......hummmmmmmm???)


35 posted on 11/27/2016 2:18:37 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero. $500for an appraisal of gen on)
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To: camle
...all leading to wins by democrats..

The recounting doesn't stop until the Rat wins

This is all a setup from the fake "concerns" floated at the beginning of the week to Stein's Oh-So-Noble effort to just "make sure the vote was fair"

We all know who defrauds the vote

36 posted on 11/27/2016 2:18:49 PM PST by Regulator
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To: doragsda

306-232 is not an electoral landslide by any stretch of the imagination. Trump won, clearly, but let’s not get carried away.

An electoral landslide requires at least 400 EVs, if not more, and near 40 states, Trump won 30 states. People throw around the term “landslide” with greater and greater frequency. Obama never had a landslide for instance but the media would of the say he did.


37 posted on 11/27/2016 2:28:55 PM PST by Az Joe (11-8-2016-----We're still here President Reagan!!)
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To: neocon1984
Only to someone who fails to comprehend English and simple logic.

It pleases me that you understand your limitation. Pot smokers can't exercise simple logic.

38 posted on 11/27/2016 2:34:22 PM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Alberta's Child

FYI I found mention from a WI site that there are about 730 rejected provisionals in WI. No county specificity mentioned.


39 posted on 11/27/2016 2:55:06 PM PST by Owen
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

This has nothing to do with counting votes, and Everything to do with feeding a “Stolen Election!” meme to keep the money from the gullible idiots flowing.


40 posted on 11/27/2016 2:56:31 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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