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People Urging a Vote Recount in Pa. “In Denial,” Says Local Election Attorney
Philadelphia Magazine ^ | 11/23/2016 | Claire Sasko

Posted on 11/25/2016 10:13:29 AM PST by dirtboy

Computer scientists and election lawyers are asking the Hillary Clinton campaign to recount election votes in three states, including Pennsylvania, New York Magazine reported last night.

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On top of that, Democratic election law attorney Adam Bonin said that those who are asking for a vote recount just might not be paying enough attention.

Election Day returns are unofficial counts. The actual counting of votes started three days after the election, and it’s “a rigorous and public process,” Bonin said, which people can observe with their own eyes at their county’s Board of Elections. “Every machine tape is looked at, every paper ballot is examined — and if there is any ambiguity, any discrepancies, that gets looked at, and that gets corrected,” Bonin said. “It is usually very boring process.”

Bonin believes many people are just looking for a path that doesn’t result in Trump as president. But more people would have faith in the process if they actually watched it, he said.

“If there were any real question, I and every Democratic election law attorney in the state would be convening teams to go to every county and every table in the commonwealth to find out what happened here,” Bonin said.

(Excerpt) Read more at phillymag.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; US: Pennsylvania; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: election; pennsylvania; stein
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1 posted on 11/25/2016 10:13:29 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

First stage of grief.


2 posted on 11/25/2016 10:16:35 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: dirtboy

Doesn’t matter to the moonbats.

They’re demanding a recount come hell or high water.

Every vote has been carefully counted. They just don’t like the result.


3 posted on 11/25/2016 10:16:46 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: dirtboy
Bonin believes many people are just looking for a path that doesn’t result in Trump as president. But more people would have faith in the process if they actually watched it, he said. “If there were any real question, I and every Democratic election law attorney in the state would be convening teams to go to every county and every table in the commonwealth to find out what happened here,” Bonin said.

It isn't about what is true - it is about the narrative. They want their followers to believe they didn't actually lose - the Republicans just "cheated" to win as they "always do" because real people don't vote for Republicans...that's the narrative they want floating around out there so the zombies won't think twice about their own distorted worldview.

4 posted on 11/25/2016 10:17:35 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: dirtboy

Phase II: Denial. Anger. Bargaining. Grief. Acceptance.

Phase I: They ignore you. They laugh at you. They attack you. You win.

It’s only just begun, our schadenfreude.


5 posted on 11/25/2016 10:18:39 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: dirtboy

The Hugo Chavez Society, whose motto is, “No election margin is too great to overturn an steal”


6 posted on 11/25/2016 10:20:15 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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There is no record of 90% of the Pa vote. They mostly use Soros-type vote machines that don’t keep a paper record.

It would be great if a recount could catch machines that had been tampered with, but I’m sure the Dems have a way of skewing these machines and then hiding any evidence of it.


7 posted on 11/25/2016 10:20:21 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: dirtboy
Shhhhh! Don't give up the con.

It's not about conducting a recount. It's about raising money.

If the recount never happens, the money raised just, well, "disappears".

8 posted on 11/25/2016 10:21:39 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: dirtboy
I remember when Reagan was running for president, a bunch of doctors took out a full page ad in a major paper detailing the medical reasons why a 69 year old man by virtue of his age is unable to do the job.

We now know that their arguments were specious (even if Reagan was already slipping at 77, 80% of Reagan was still better than 100% of almost anybody else), and they used their credentials to present a disingenuous argument. When it comes to leftism, ideology trumps Truth and Professional Duty.
9 posted on 11/25/2016 10:22:38 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: TigerClaws

...First stage of grief...

No, they are already in anger..lots of anger that has turned violent. They won’t get past this stage in four or eight years.


10 posted on 11/25/2016 10:25:02 AM PST by Sasparilla (I Am Not Tired Of Winning)
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“Every machine tape is looked at, every paper ballot is examined ...

This is true where I live. As a certified election challenger, I get to see the "tapes" from every machine (which in my district look like cash register receipts).

I also look at the local clerk's spreadsheet that shows his tabulation of each tape from each machine, including write-in votes.

To test the clerk's honesty and accuracy, my spouse and I make a practice of always entering at least one write-in name at the voting machine. I usually enter "Ronald Reagan" in some race that isn't hotly contested. Then later I check the clerk's tabulation to make sure my write-in for Ronald Reagan to recorded. It always is.

I find it hard to imagine how Russia could "hack" any of this process. The voting machines aren't connected to the internet.

While I'm sure it's possible to tamper with voting machines, seems to me the tampering would have to be done to each machine, one-by-one. This would likely have to be done during the pre-election machine calibration process. To be effective, any widespread machine tampering would have to be an immense undertaking.

11 posted on 11/25/2016 10:30:25 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: goldstategop

That is because democrats always find just enough uncounted, missed, or lost democrat votes to put their loser over the top as in Farrakhan.


12 posted on 11/25/2016 10:35:38 AM PST by Tarasaramozart
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Trump flat out won Michigan. Democrats want wisconsin and PA, they can have it. We concede those states. But only if there is an investigation and Viginia’s vote is vacated. Losing by 60k votes and turns out 60k criminals had voting rights restored is odd.


13 posted on 11/25/2016 11:06:46 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Election 2016 - Best election ever.)
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To: Texas Eagle
Shhhhh! Don't give up the con.

It's not about conducting a recount. It's about raising money.

If the recount never happens, the money raised just, well, "disappears".

The variety of online portals available for donating to the recount fund encourages supporters to go above and beyond the contribution limits that Stein's campaign must adhere to. Per her NationBuilder page, "You can donate up to $22,700 per person by contributing up to $2,700 on this page plus $10,000 to each of the following state Green Parties that have allowed contributions to kickstart the recount initiative." Stein has already garnered immense support for her initiative, but she may need some of those $22,000 donations to draw the almost $7 million she projects she'll need by next Wednesday.

14 posted on 11/25/2016 11:10:49 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: dirtboy

Data scientists who found a 7% anomaly in states with electronic ballots made a classic error in their suggestion that the electronic ballots may have been hacked. This assumes that all the states with the paper ballot were not 7% fraudulent in the opposite direction.


15 posted on 11/25/2016 11:15:34 AM PST by douginthearmy
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To: dirtboy

In denial - or just plain nuts.


16 posted on 11/25/2016 11:20:16 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: dirtboy

Same thing in the GOP primaries.

People without detailed knowledge of or experience with the process spun endless fantasies about bribes and vote-stealing.

Agent provocateurs even tried to bait or goad the ignorant into committing violent acts. It’s stunning actually.


17 posted on 11/25/2016 11:23:20 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Computer Scientists, lmao, there is no such thing. IT techs perhaps but computer scientists?!

I call Bovine Excretement. .


18 posted on 11/25/2016 11:33:43 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: dirtboy

The day after the Inauguration is going to be hilarious.


19 posted on 11/25/2016 12:28:39 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: dirtboy

Today is WI’s deadline for challenging the count. MI and PA have deadlines next week.


20 posted on 11/25/2016 12:49:21 PM PST by randita (PLEASE STOP ALL THE WORTHLESS VANITIES!)
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