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The Constitution lets the electoral college choose the winner. They should choose Clinton.
WashPost via kenm77.newsvine.com ^ | 11/25/2016 | Lawrence Lessig

Posted on 11/25/2016 8:39:23 AM PST by dirtboy

Conventional wisdom tells us that the electoral college requires that the person who lost the popular vote this year must nonetheless become our president. That view is an insult to our framers. It is compelled by nothing in our Constitution. It should be rejected by anyone with any understanding of our democratic traditions  — most important, the electors themselves.

The framers believed, as Alexander Hamilton put it, that “the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the [president].” But no nation had ever tried that idea before. So the framers created a safety valve on the people’s choice. Like a judge reviewing a jury verdict, where the people voted, the electoral college was intended to confirm — or not — the people’s choice. Electors were to apply, in Hamilton’s words, “a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice” — and then decide. The Constitution says nothing about “winner take all.” It says nothing to suggest that electors’ freedom should be constrained in any way. Instead, their wisdom — about whether to overrule “the people” or not — was to be free of political control yet guided by democratic values. They were to be citizens exercising judgment,  not cogs turning a wheel.

Many think we should abolish the electoral college... What if the people elect a Manchurian candidate? Or a child rapist? What if evidence of massive fraud pervades a close election? It is a useful thing to have a body confirm the results of a democratic election — so long as that body exercises its power reflectively and conservatively. Rarely — if ever — should it veto the people’s choice. And if it does, it needs a very good reason.

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To: dirtboy

Why are people this stupid given a voice?


21 posted on 11/25/2016 8:50:29 AM PST by wastedyears (Clinton's supporters crying is the best thing ever..)
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To: dirtboy

What the heck is this pathological adoration of an out and out monster? A really sick monster at that. I understand the “getting your own ox gored” etc. But is a bit of material wealth really worth your soul? Really? Money is that important? I just don’t get it (and yeah, I’d like a new new truck, but geez, I’m not going to kill some child to get one).


22 posted on 11/25/2016 8:51:00 AM PST by lafroste (Look at my profile page. Thanks.)
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To: dirtboy

The Constitution doesn’t “let the Electoral College” choose the winner willy-nilly. The final leg of that process is the certification of the vote by the JOINT Session of Congress of a valid vote. All this is explained at archives.gov blah blah....


23 posted on 11/25/2016 8:51:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: dirtboy

“What if evidence of massive fraud pervades a close election?”

Like California sending illegitimate votes. Our Electors offer a safeguard against that.


24 posted on 11/25/2016 8:51:32 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: dirtboy

What scum these people are. GET RID OF THE ELECTORAL!!! NO WAIT!!! THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE CAN SAVE US!!!


25 posted on 11/25/2016 8:51:33 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: cincinnati65

But it’s not fair. We should let voters in California and New York pick our President because clearly they know what is best for us.

/sarcasm


26 posted on 11/25/2016 8:52:03 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!)
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To: dirtboy

A “Manchurian Candidate”? You mean like Bammy?


27 posted on 11/25/2016 8:52:21 AM PST by sevlex
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To: dirtboy
Many think we should abolish the electoral college... What if the people elect a Manchurian candidate?

Lol....unintentionally hilarious.

28 posted on 11/25/2016 8:52:54 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Junk Silver

Hahhhhvahhhd!

LOL.

People like this have forever besmirched Academia and the “Ivy league”, which used to be RESPECTED.


29 posted on 11/25/2016 8:53:21 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: dirtboy
More CRAP from the Wa Pissed.
30 posted on 11/25/2016 8:54:14 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: dirtboy

They are Jacobins!


31 posted on 11/25/2016 8:54:23 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: dirtboy

Ignoring rules and laws—it’s the Clintons M. O.


32 posted on 11/25/2016 8:55:47 AM PST by lonestar (Texan for Trump)
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To: dirtboy

Bezos: STFU.


33 posted on 11/25/2016 8:55:54 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Media were SuperPacs for Clinton. Throw them in prison.)
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To: dirtboy

the accidental genius of the electoral college

Sean J. Rosenthal
Monday, November 14, 2016
fee.org

https://fee.org/articles/the-accidental-genius-of-the-electoral-college/


34 posted on 11/25/2016 8:57:18 AM PST by SteveH
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To: dirtboy

Why does anyone print this crap?


35 posted on 11/25/2016 8:58:23 AM PST by zendari
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To: DesertRhino

3.5 million according to what TrueTheVote said a few weeks ago. Since voting seems to be still underway in California, the total foreign vote will continue to mount.


36 posted on 11/25/2016 8:58:39 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: dirtboy

The level of lunacy is off the charts.


37 posted on 11/25/2016 8:58:43 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: dirtboy

This is all starting to sound like an interview with Charles Manson, if you’ve ever heard one.

These people all have “Trump Derangement Syndrome” and are shouting to each other in an echo chamber.

Listen at your own peril.


38 posted on 11/25/2016 8:58:49 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: A_Former_Democrat
WaPo advocating for civil war

I will continue to hope and to pray that we have avoided civil war . . . for now. The author seems to be hoping otherwise.

39 posted on 11/25/2016 8:59:42 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: dirtboy

...and under-populated states should only have one senator. Ignorant journalists that don’t understand that this is the United States of America and not a country called Kalifornia-New York.


40 posted on 11/25/2016 9:01:13 AM PST by bruoz
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