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Report: Presidential electors planning to undermine Electoral College
The Hill ^ | 11/22/2016 | Harper Neidig

Posted on 11/22/2016 8:57:51 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

A number of Democratic Electoral College electors are planning to use their votes to undermine the election process in opposition to President-elect Donald Trump, Politico is reporting.

Some electors are lobbying their Republican counterparts to vote for someone other than Trump in an attempt to deny him the 270 votes required to elect him, according to the news outlet. They are also contemplating whether to cast their votes for someone other than Hillary Clinton

With at least six electors already vowing to become "faithless," the defection could be the most significant since 1808, when six Democratic-Republican electors refused to vote for James Madison, choosing vice presidential candidate George Clinton instead.

The electors acknowledge that it is unlikely that they will be able to block Trump from gaining office, Politico reported, but they are optimistic that their effort will raise enough questions about the Electoral College to reform or abolish it.

"If it gets into the House, the controversy and the uncertainty that would immediately blow up into a political firestorm in the U.S. would cause enough people — my hope is — to look at the whole concept of the Electoral College," one of the electors told Politico.

It’s unclear how many, if any, Republicans have signed on to the effort.

Twenty-nine states legally require their electors to obey the results of the popular vote in their state.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016electoralcollege; 2016electors; aflac; bfac; clinton; democrats; dncstrategy; electoralcollege; hillary2016; trump; trump2016; trumptransition
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To: Red Badger

41 posted on 11/22/2016 9:22:15 AM PST by Salamander (The day is okay, and the sun can be fun, but I live to see those rays slip away...)
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To: Red Badger
They can be 'optimistic' all they want, but it requires a Constitutional Amendment to change it and that's not easy. [description of how hard it is follows]

OR they can get five people on the Supreme Court to say it's no longer good. Problem solved and for all the reasons you cited, overturning them is virtually impossible.

This is why the SCOTUS is the most undemocratic and yet the most powerful of our institutions, a state the founders never imagined our would have tolerated. Something needs to be done.

42 posted on 11/22/2016 9:22:39 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: Zack Attack

LOL

GMTA

:D


43 posted on 11/22/2016 9:23:41 AM PST by Salamander (The day is okay, and the sun can be fun, but I live to see those rays slip away...)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Given the opinions of the liberal SC Justices, we are 2 picks away from rule by fiat.


44 posted on 11/22/2016 9:25:08 AM PST by AU72
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To: Innovative
Congress should be able to do something about it

Our Congress? The Congress infested with RINO excuses for representatives? The same Congress that rubber stamped everything O'DumDum did during his tenure?

45 posted on 11/22/2016 9:25:27 AM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

RE: Is this legal???!

Yes it is I think. We’ve had faithless electors before.

But I don’t see how 6 democrat electors voting for someone other than Hillary Clinton is going to cause 37 Republican electors to not vote for Trump.

They can try, but in the end, this is what should happen:

1) IF a state votes Republican, the state sends GOP electors, not Dem ones. So they’d have to convince ALL GOPers to vote for HIllary. Unlikely.

2) The results have to be accepted by the Senate or Congress.

3) if the elections ends up in the Lower House (extreme long shot), Trump gets elected anyway.

So, this is all simply about “Sending a message”.


46 posted on 11/22/2016 9:26:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Red Badger
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47 posted on 11/22/2016 9:27:52 AM PST by GunningForTheBuddha (TARD: Trump Acceptance Resistance Disorder)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
They are also contemplating whether to cast their votes for someone other than Hillary Clinton

Yeah, feel the Bern, that'll show em!

48 posted on 11/22/2016 9:29:12 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Why do so few here seem to not understand that the six elecorso that are going to vote are Democratic electors and they have nothing to say about the Republican electors which and who of course are different.


49 posted on 11/22/2016 9:29:33 AM PST by billyboy15 (L9)
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To: Zack Attack

P-Funk!!!!!


50 posted on 11/22/2016 9:29:43 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Somewhere Jeb weeps. (please clap))
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Twenty-nine states legally require their electors to obey the results of the popular vote in their state.

***********************

Apparently 21 states and DC give them some freedom.


51 posted on 11/22/2016 9:31:53 AM PST by deport
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To: InterceptPoint

Almost every state has a law in place to force the Electoral votes to follow the state to prevent bribery in buying votes. This is why there is no chance this goes anywhere and has never gone anywhere in US history.

The reason you see Politico pushing this crap is because they know that to sell their worthless stories they need to take advantage of reader’s fear and ignorance. It’s a headline grabber.

There’s a high chance Politico folds in the next year as it has been proven they are propped up by subscriptions from the federal government and its contractors, by directives to buy their worthless material because it serves the progressive cause.

No matter, it doesn’t matter what happens to a few Electors who might take the bait because Congress has to certify the Elector votes on January 7. Fat chance Congress will take up the cause of a few flaming liberals with their head up their *ss.


52 posted on 11/22/2016 9:34:15 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: wny

Outzeroed only by Hussain. Nobody can be zeroer than him.


53 posted on 11/22/2016 9:35:43 AM PST by libh8er
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To: pepsi_junkie

IIRC, the SCOTUS cannot declare a part of the Constitution unconstitutional.............


54 posted on 11/22/2016 9:37:59 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Depends on which state one is speaking of. In many states they have alternates that would be allowed to vote and have the unruliness removed

This comes up every four years. It is mor community organizer crapola. The commies want a popular vote so they can rig it. The EC is designed to prevent this type of trickery


55 posted on 11/22/2016 9:40:08 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Tar and feathers....


56 posted on 11/22/2016 9:41:28 AM PST by gunnut
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To: Arm_Bears

Because the commies want a popular vote. They don’t care about the country only power


57 posted on 11/22/2016 9:41:44 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: boomstick

No, same as now, only smaller..........Washington DC was a swamp then, literally..............


58 posted on 11/22/2016 9:42:25 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Innovative

No. The states are the ones that control this.

This is properly left to the states


59 posted on 11/22/2016 9:44:21 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Democrats hate too much

You need to quit this nonsense

This is not helpful in any way shape or form


60 posted on 11/22/2016 9:45:39 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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