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Fact Check: This Pizzeria Is Not a Child-Trafficking Site
New York Slimes ^

Posted on 11/21/2016 7:33:31 PM PST by TigerClaws

WASHINGTON — Days before the presidential election, James Alefantis, owner of a local pizza restaurant called Comet Ping Pong, noticed an unusual spike in the number of his Instagram followers.

Within hours, menacing messages like “we’re on to you” began appearing in his Instagram feed. In the ensuing days, hundreds of death threats — one read “I will kill you personally” — started arriving via texts, Facebook and Twitter. All of them alleged something that made Mr. Alefantis’s jaw drop: that Comet Ping Pong was the home base of a child abuse ring led by Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief, John D. Podesta.

When Mr. Alefantis discovered that his employees were getting similar abusive messages, he looked online to unravel the accusations. He found dozens of made-up articles about Mrs. Clinton kidnapping, molesting and trafficking children in the restaurant’s back rooms. The articles appeared on Facebook and on websites such as The New Nationalist and The Vigilant Citizen, with one headline blaring: “Pizzagate: How 4Chan Uncovered the Sick World of Washington’s Occult Elite.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alefantis; brock; cometpizza; molester; pedophilering; pedophilia; pingpongpizza; pizza; pizzagate; podesta
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To: Company Man
Most of this evidence of child trafficking involves words and symbols and what they mean. It would not have taken the reporter much effort to contact the FBI and one of their child trafficking units, met with a detective, showed them the words and symbols and asked them if they mean something in the context of child trafficking. If the FBI had said no, they don't mean anything sinister, I would be satisfied. That is pretty basic journalism. But they didn't do that.

Right now the online explanation seem to be an explanation of what those words and symbols mean. If there is an alternative explanation, I'd like to hear it. This article doesn't even try.

61 posted on 11/21/2016 8:21:36 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: TigerClaws

I’m not going to shed any tears if any sickos get shut down. Like that snowflake CEO who wanted to assasinate Trump


62 posted on 11/21/2016 8:21:43 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

It’s the authors of the blog that called them donations. The Soros backed non-profit reported it as a pizza party - which makes quite a bit of sense.


63 posted on 11/21/2016 8:22:53 PM PST by semimojo
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To: Vince Ferrer

I want someone in the Government to find out if John and Tony were in that country when the Mccann girl was abducted. Two sketches that look like them is strange.


64 posted on 11/21/2016 8:23:22 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: RummyChick
Molly ‏@Eclipse_OW .@twitter has THREATENED to permanently ban me if I EVER tweet the google doc/MASTER LIST again. #pedoleaks #twittergate #pizzagate
65 posted on 11/21/2016 8:27:00 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: RummyChick

Heavy Breathing was the name of the freaky band that played at Comet Pizza.


66 posted on 11/21/2016 8:27:18 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Kim Noble did art for one of the bands playing there.

Here she is on Oprah:

http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Art-Therapy-and-Dissociative-Identity-Disorder-Video

She has dissacoiative (multiple) identity disorder because she was a victim of childhood sexual abuse.

More smoke...


67 posted on 11/21/2016 8:32:50 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

No, it’s not that one that was on the poster that has Kim Nobles work. Or they are claiming it is the poster. I didn’t see the promo poster on the site.

It’s a different band. I am pretty sure it was an April concert date.


68 posted on 11/21/2016 8:33:09 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: TigerClaws

What would the NYTimes know about facts.


69 posted on 11/21/2016 8:35:59 PM PST by A message
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To: TigerClaws

This is the one.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxwd7h4XEAAk5N9.jpg

But here is the confusion to me. See the girl laying down? Is that Kim Nobles art on the concert poster. The one on the right is her work...but I haven’t seen conclusive evidence that was actually used.


70 posted on 11/21/2016 8:36:26 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: UCANSEE2

From the article at your link:

“David [Brock] is also the former director the Bitcoin Foundation and is a confirmed pedophile as exposed in past court cases and the documentary “An Open Secret“.”

I watched “An Open Secret” last night looking for this concerning Brock and didn’t see it. ( I did see Michael Huffington [Arianna’s ex] fairly strongly implicated in the film, but not David Brock.)

If you or another Freeper can provide help on where this is in the film, I’d appreciate.

Same thing for a reference or link to Brock as “a confirmed pedophile as exposed in past court cases.”


71 posted on 11/21/2016 8:36:52 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RummyChick

Btw, those are names of bands (I THINK) on that poster


72 posted on 11/21/2016 8:38:41 PM PST by RummyChick (Trump Train Hobo TM Rummychick. Example - Ryan Romney Kasich. Quit trying to Jump on the Train)
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To: RummyChick

Ria is one of Kim’s personalities and it was my understanding she did some of the art for posters:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5bh76d/occultpedo_imagery_in_the_comet_pizza_posters/

Again, not ‘proof’ - just more smoke.

I don’t think actual ‘proof’ will come from online folks. Weiner’s laptop possibly. A victim stepping forward after the current political regime is out of power. A whistleblowing FBI agent or other LEA realizing going public is the only way to have justice done.

Internet journalists unlikely to find ‘smoking gun’ but they’ll find plenty of smoke.


73 posted on 11/21/2016 8:39:15 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: RummyChick

AWESOME!!!! NOW THAT is the kind of thing I am talking about!! these are the details that we need to get right.... but we need to not skip the details when informing folks!!


74 posted on 11/21/2016 8:41:49 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE thatEARTH....Archimedes)
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To: D-fendr

Brock still runs Correct the Record.

I’m unaware of something referring to him as a pedo and certainly not proven.

There was a court case where yet another ex-boyfriend of his threatened to expose Brock unless some settlement (850k) was paid.

I read years ago that the vast majority of practicing homosexuals are the victims of child sex crimes. Assume that’s just part of the scene and not uncommon to any homosexual.


75 posted on 11/21/2016 8:42:45 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: eeevil conservative
The problem is that for the first time (probably because of the subject matter) Freerepublic is not doing the research, a bunch of kids on Reddit, utube and twitter are and even though this is fascinating nobody is taking up the research torch here on freerepublic. We just happen to be reading what they come up with not pitching in and getting our hands dirty. This research requires digging into dirt that will never come off. I already know more about these type of people than I ever needed to besmirch my life with.

I do not have the stomach to do this research and I no longer trust authorities to do the job....that leaves unreliable kids doing this which includes all the high emotion, tangents and wrong leads that go with youth. This had very little chance even if true of going anywhere because of the people involved....this will be an internet conspiracy theory, like the deaths from the Clinton mafia, never going anywhere.

76 posted on 11/21/2016 8:43:08 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: RummyChick

That was Portugal. They were from the U.K. on holiday.

Child sex tourism is very big with a certain demographic that we might call metrosexual gays. Many of them go to southeast Asia from Europe and North America. Raise your hand if you didn’t know that before today and then wear the “gosh I am naive” hat for a week.

But if you’re a busy stay at home such person, then perhaps you can have home delivery. This is what makes this story with these added details seem slightly more plausible.

Haiti would have presented a choice opportunity for child sex traffickers. If not these suspects, then who? If not their contacts as consumers, then who? At some point, the continual celebration of perversion starts to become less “cool” and more “creepy.” It’s all a matter of where you stand, solid rock or shifting sand.

I wish I lived in the eastern U.S., then I could do some research on the scene. I am on the west coast, we have some opportunities for similar research, but I have not obtained very many clues yet.

It is a strange thing, whenever you start poking into the business of globalists, child sex issues come out of the woodwork. Urban legend, or just waiting-to-be-proven conspiracy? It is at least worth some investigation.


77 posted on 11/21/2016 8:43:53 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Listen for my radio call-in program on channel A in your brain, yes caller ... I'm listening)
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To: RummyChick

Well, the lettering of one on the left references the site. Not sure if that’s one poster but looks like two.

Again, this is ‘smoke’ - just like the nude teen photos Tony Podesta had in his house which were ‘art’ and some lent out to museums.

Doesn’t rise to the level of proof enough to get a warrant.


78 posted on 11/21/2016 8:44:44 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

The best way to discredit alternate media sources is to create fake ones that pump false accusations.

Think about it... if this pizza joint got smeared without evidence, how much you wanna bet it was democrats???

This may well be a straw man to protect the real ring.

Nothing makes me more angry than those bearing false witness.


79 posted on 11/21/2016 8:45:04 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: eeevil conservative; UCANSEE2

UCANSEE2 posted:
“AND... let’s start this off with the most informative source I have found so far. (that seems safe to access)

James Achilles Alefantis And His Comet Ping Pong Network”

http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/11/james-achilles-alefantis-and-his-comet-ping-pong-network/

I think that this would make a good place to start for sorting out the truth from the chaff. A lot of the information is tangential. Some of it is conjectural. The copies of the tweets are very disturbing.

To those who believe that this is all smoke, I would point out that even if illegal activity is NOT taking place, there is certainly enough information to demonstrate that the people involved are moral reprobates who have no business anywhere near our government, our children, or the definition of our culture.


80 posted on 11/21/2016 8:46:14 PM PST by the_Watchman
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