Posted on 11/10/2016 5:33:42 PM PST by Morgana
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Donald Trump’s election as president is giving a big social-media boost to an unlikely effort in the nation’s most populous state: a plan to vote on seceding from the union.
The Yes California Independence Campaign hopes to put a question on the November 2018 ballot that would authorize a statewide independence vote for the spring of 2019.
The effort drew little attention until Tuesday’s election, which also kept Trump’s fellow Republicans in charge of Congress and raised the possibility of a conservative shift on the U.S. Supreme Court.
Any effort to get an issue on the ballot requires the gathering of hundreds of thousands of signatures.
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This is one of a number of homosexual sites on the internet that encourage homosexuals from all over the nation to visit and tour California or relocate there.
It also hawks the same thing for other homosexual communities around the nation.
So strange as it may seem, yes there are adds to get homosexuals to visit California and even relocate there.
The link I used to find this site, had “relocate” in it’s summary of what you would see if you hit the link.
Well, we’re already going to be building a great wall, we can just add another 1,000 miles on for our new border between the US and the former California.
I don’t think it can legally be done. Texas might be an exception, but I am not even certain they could do it.
California, like Texas, was actually a nation unto itself for about 24 hours before joining the nation.
I forget the exact details, but California didn’t just incorporate as a state solely.
George Soros needs to go away, don’t we have some unemployed Seals and Delta force that can do the right thing?
He should be tried for sedition. Now I say that admittedly not knowing the full qualifications for it, but any guy that can be tied to paying rioters to riot, should be tried, convicted, and placed in prison.
CA will need them to wage civil war against the other 49 states if their secession is opposed.
Welcome to Arizona. We had a great life there. I wish you God’s blessing among wonderful people.
No, do the exact opposite with California.
The feds need to lean hard on the California state government lackeys, and tell them in no uncertain terms that their flagrant willful violation of federal laws is going to come back and bite them in the ass, hard.
I didn’t go into this thread with the thought of guessing. All I did was quote the Constitution and one of the briefs written by a supreme court justice, Scalia supporting it. I was born and raised in California, central valley. I know how they think, and their complete disregard for the law. I also know they have gone bankrupt in the state treasury a few times due to their mismanagement of funds.
But the point is according to the brief from Scalia, if one person is denied anything due to their actions against the US, they are in violation of the Constitution and the federal government will step in if requested by the violated or if the violation is discovered. It has nothing to do with majority vote. And if they have to step in militarily, the state wouldn’t stand a chance. This is not a bunch of men throwing tea in the harbor. This is like a country threatening to violate the rights of a citizen(s). And that is treason.
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Thank you for not trying to educate me. You fully send out the message of the democrats, that they are elitists that have such a high opinion of themselves that they think only their way is right and blindly follow their “leaders” into failure. Re-electing moonbeam is a perfect example.
Besides, I already graduated, my first degree from Fresno State as a matter of fact. But nothing in either of my degrees contained the word inadequate. That’s why I have chosen not to retire in California. Don’t like throwing money into the ocean.
Have a good day and again, thanks for saving me for not giving in to my apparent “demand” to be educated when all I did was quote the Constitution and a supreme court justice. I guess I can’t seem to understand how that’s wrong on all counts when those sources make the rules.
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You really don’t want CA to leave. There are many solid folk living here amongst the flakes. (Next time Jim displays the FR donation table, you will note CA is at the top.)
The asshats that want to secede are just that. Don’t play into their hot foul airings that have nothing to do with the lives and fortunes of real people who are patriots and love this country America.
What I would like to know, is there a forum for CA FReepers to start formulating strategies to take back our state from the looney tunes? My children and grandchildren live here. I want them to build on the legacy. I am looking for help.
Even California leaves those people can move, let California leave, I’d like nothing better ...
I would defend your liberty and property from tyranny. So easy for you to say. It is not your home, or livelihood, or family at jeopardy. Why are you so glib in suggesting that conservative Americans throw there hands and fortunes to the wind? How about standing with us to fight a foe that may undermine your world some day? E pluribus unum ring a bell?
I hear you but California is lost, it’s gone, what can I say, it’s not even America anymore. The writing is on the wall, they need to get out now.
Your points are valid. My basic point is that secessionists have valid claims also. And that the issue was left surprisingly vague by the Framers.
You’re right that a pre-established process is needed and written into law. It should be painful to the state (or county) that chooses to leave, but peaceful and permitted.
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how is this going work in the real world?
A. LA and SD join Mexico and SF and north to Seattle joins Canada? US keeps everything from Santa Barbara to San Jose
B. LA and north joins Canada. US keeps SD.
I like A, but B is more realistic.
I agree with you that it is vague in that there is no yea or nay to secession in the Constitution plainly written out. But that’s not the way this needs to be considered.
All of the states in the union have commitments to and from each other. Each state has commitments to and from the Federal government, also. There is no state in the union with the capacity to conduct itself as an independent nation. That’s why states had to vote to become a member in the union. There are way too many problems to being an independent nation in so many ways. So considering independence is foolish. And if a democratic vote of the people in California produced one nay vote, legally within the Constitution by what I pasted in, it will create a civil war they can’t win.
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I’d like to keep Pacific coast access, naval base in SD.
Del Norte County deserves to stay in America.
I’d put Auh2o in charge of redrawing the maps.
The is just awful in CA, they keep counting mail in ballots and it keeps giving Shilly more votes. I don’t trust the counting but any way you slice it, awful. As DJ says even splitting it in 2 now might not help us.
Huge parts of Oregon and WA State along with Illinois are disenfranchised. We need to take separation into the political mainstream.
MN stolen, look at that map, can the Earth please swallow up the Twin Cities?
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