Posted on 10/29/2016 6:28:46 PM PDT by hotsteppa
However, buried in a New York Times article the following paragraph:
[…] A senior law enforcement official said that tens of thousands of emails belonging to Ms. Abedin were on Mr. Weiner’s laptop, which the F.B.I. had obtained as part of its investigation into Mr. Weiner. About a month ago, a person familiar with the investigation said, F.B.I. agents seized the laptop as well as Mr. Weiner’s iPad and cellphone.
If there's ONE thing the low information voters understand, it's a sex scandal.
And that will keep it front and center until the espionage stuff comes out.
Bill escaped with the Lewinsky scandal because most women in the country secretly wished that they could give him a blow job, too.
Hillary is not so fortunate.
LOL!! i can’t believe you just wrote that :)
We all could use a good laugh!
Comey may have used the letter to let the world know that the DOJ was stonewalling. Interestingly, he got Hillary to demand what he could not get.
Plus I still love that picture on your profile cage.
My cat’s my little buddy :)
I disagree. Under Rodriguez, there were two issues at hand. The first being the entry to the apartment and the second being the finding of the controlled substance. In its opinion, the Court held that the police acted “reasonably” when they entered Rodriguez’s apartment based on the statement of a third party.
However, the Court also said that although the entry was legal, the drugs that were found subsequent to the entry could still be open to a motion to suppress at trial. In other words, the defendant still had Fourth Ammendment “trial rights”.
And here is where I think the problem is. Huma, (if she gave consent) agreed to give the computer to the police for the express purpose of them collecting evidence in reference to the sexting case.
She did not authorize the police to look at her or other emails. Her consent was limited to the case against her husband. Since there were other emails on the computer that may be part of another crime, the NYPD/FBI probably decided it was best to get a search warrant to make sure there is no possibility that other emails are tossed under a motion to suppress.
It is an interesting legal conundrum the investigators face, but obtaining a search warrant should be pretty much a matter of procedure.
This statement is completely incorrect.
Knowledge of evidence illegally obtained when a subsequent warrant recovers the same evidence is not excluded under the exclusionary rule. It is valid evidence.
Even if Weiner voluntarily surrendered the computer to the NYPD, he CANNOT give consent to the police to search anything other than HIS email.
This statement is also false. He cannot give consent for Huma or Hillary. Therefore the search warrant is needed.
This statement is ALSO FALSE, and I have cited the pertinent case law, which you attempted to deflect with errant nonsense about "exigent circumstances." Exigent circumstance is not necessary when a party with control over the premises or item to be examined voluntarily surrenders the evidence. Since you're stating a bunch of nonsense on this forum, you need to stop talking:
STATE OF ILLINOIS, PETITIONER v. EDWARD RODRIGUEZ (SCOTUS, 1990) Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority. "In United States v. Matlock, 415 U.S. 164 (1974), this Court reaffirmed that a warrantless entry and search by law enforcement officers does not violate the Fourth Amendment's proscription of "unreasonable searches and seizures" if the officers have obtained the consent of a third party who possesses common authority over the premises."
"The present case presents an issue we expressly reserved in Matlock, see id., at 177, n.14: whether a warrantless entry is valid when based upon the consent of a third party whom the police, at the time of the entry, reasonably believe to possess common authority over the premises, but who in fact does not do so.
The Court held that the evidence, even in this case was admissible AS WELL.
Wikileaks says they will be giving out all 33,000 deleted Emails on Monday.
Six degrees of separation, or less.
Like you, mine is much less than six as well.
It truly is a small world.
Why do they need a warrant if they presumably had one for the Weiner investigation, exactly? If they open up Outlook for example to look for e-mails from Weiner to his underage accusers and happen to stumble upon Huma/Clinton e-mails, is there a tenable argument that they exceeded the boundaries of the warrant or would the plain sight rule come into play?
Any FReepers in law enforcement or criminal lawyers have an idea?
you have a link to that?
As for your assertions about Rodriguez, I think you'd better reread the opinion, which states, inter alia:
But as we have discussed, what is at issue when a claim of apparent consent is raised is not whether the right to be free of searches has been waived, but whether the right to be free of unreasonable searches has been violated.
The freedom from unreasonable searches is all the Exclusionary Rule protects, and that protection was not violated in Rodriguez.
Yes, obtaining a warrant should merely be pro forma but there is no reason to believe that anything seen in pursuing the vice case is not covered under either voluntary surrender or plain view, and NOTHING has been endangered by the actions of the NYPD or Bharara's office in this investigation.
Saw that on Reddit.
I also happen to believe that if the reports are correct, this laptop was voluntarily surrendered. When police are given consent to search (either by the target of an investigation or by a third party with control over a premises) they do not need a warrant, and they do not have to be searching for specific items at all.
Thank you!
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