Posted on 10/21/2016 6:41:05 AM PDT by rlmorel
James O'Keefe has produced documentation in his Project Veritas endeavor which has produced two videos that I know of to date (which can be found on Youtube as well, Part 1: Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies and Part 2: Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Frauds.
I have watched these two videos, and the content astonishes me. But let me clarify that they do not astonish me the way they might astonish or startle many Americans, because the tactics are not new, I have seen evidence of this before, and being enough of a student of Liberalism to understand it better, I realize this is who they are and how they function.
I took the time to read Alinsky's work, and to read the books Obama has supposedly written as well to better understand the actions and tactics of liberals, and while absolutely none of it has surprised me, it has certainly disgusted me, particularly Alinsky, who is a demi-god to most upper ranking liberals today, significantly Obama and Clinton.
So, that doesn't surprise me at all that they are inciting violence, engaging in voter fraud, and breaking election laws left and right. As James O'Keefe says in the first video, there is strong evidence of criminality.
What surprises me is the level of smug arrogance the leftists in these videos exhibit, openly bragging about their activities, and the realization they feel obviously empowered to do this because they believe their backs are covered by the Administration, DNC, and other arms of the government populated under direct control of leftists "down with the cause" of liberalism and the tactics used to advance it. Arms such as the FBI, the DOJ, etc.
This is what the last eight years of Obama has brought to us.
The reason I am starting this thread is to discuss why this is not taking hold. It simply isn't because the news media is suppressing it, which they clearly are. It isn't because the candidates and national parties don't want to discuss it openly, which they don't. There is more to it. On the face of it, this should be exploding even with those factors.
the video is irrefutable. It is specific. It has times, places, and people.
It isn't video taken out of context, it is completely in context.
It isn't audio that might be faked. It is video of highly recognizable people, in expected locations, speaking on camera.
The people aren't nobodies, rogue operators, fringe players, autonomously operating on their own. These are two significant players who, between them, have visited the White House nearly 350 officially recorded times, and met PERSONALLY with the President of The United States 40+ times. Forty times. Watch the video, listen to what they say, and think about that. Nearly 350 visits overall in eight years to the seat of American political power, and met personally with ostensibly the most powerful political figure on earth. Again, watch the video, listen to what they say, and think about that.
When I saw this video, it impressed me as having the potential to be the most significant political developments in modern American political history. It should be generating a 9.6 earthquake on the political Richter Scale. Why isn't even barely registering, even taking into account the media and national party attempts to suppress it?
I recognize there are many factors at play, and it has only been a few days since this video was released. The Watergate scandal took several weeks to begin percolating.
I have also been told that these to key players, Robert Creamer and Scott Foval, are bit players, unknowns. My response to this is two-fold: First, these two men are not unknowns. They have been to the White House hundreds if times, Robert Creamer has even been photographed shopping with Michelle Obama. Secondly, in the past, people like Virgilio González, Bernard Barker, James McCord, Eugenio Martínez, and Frank Sturgis were real nobodies, and that didn't stop a political tsunami.
So, lets talk. What is this, why is this, in a time when it should explode with shock waves to the top of the White House and DNC, is this quietly sitting there?
“THAT is what I am afraid of, fwdude. If that is the case, our country may be irretrievably lost already.”
I believe it is.
The only thing thing that will save us is, ironically, some sort of meltdown that will wake the masses out of their stupor. Financial collapse, so their EBT cards quit working, hyperinflation, etc.
And it needs to happen soon, while enough of us older folk who remember the Constitution are around for the rebuilding. The younger dumbed-down, entitlement-grabbing generations will want socialism/communism while not even recognizing that is what caused the mess.
Youtube is taking the videos down.
Facebook and others have Democrat operatives and biased liberals flagging them to take them down whether through copyright notices or hate speech.
It is censorship.
I think it’s percolating. The anger is seething. It feels like we are all just getting our ducks in a row for something big that is going to come of this.
For now many people are still really fearful of speaking out to their friends or just plain tired of beating their head against the wall. Time will bring them to the surface.
And keep in mind, there are some people just too dumb to understand the importance of these revelations or too dumb to care. They’ll be of no help to us. They can and will go to hell.
Lots of things don’t happen as they should. The Democrat party should apologize for its crimes and disband. Not gonna happen....however that does NOT mean there isn’t enough people that will be swayed to our side by Nov 8 by this stuff. Just means you won’t see the kind of reaction we would have liked to.
Because the MSM is sitting on it.
Find a way to break the blockade, and you will see it have an effect.
They(MSM)are providing cover for their partners-in-crime(demonrats), because they too are worried that...exposing demonrat political fraud brings down their own house of cards(think Brian Williams, Dan Rather).
I'm sure there are embellishments to some of these revelations coming out...however, people are resigning their positions due to their REAL corrupt activities being exposed...so there is obviously a large element of TRUTH to these accusations...or people wouldn't be losing/quitting their jobs.
Here's the thing, conservatives should demand an "affirmative action" program to even out the message in media/academia, it simply is(and has been for decades)WAAAAAAY too one-sided in favor of leftist ideology.
If it were the other way around libtards would be screaming bloody murder.
Our-side is just too passive. Continuing to just use prayer or politics is just sitting on the side-lines waiting for someone else to do the work. We simply have to get more involved than we have, using our OWN loud voices/actions to demand change/accountability.
The left has found a playbook in the teachings of Saul Alinsky, we can either fight fire with fire or come up with our own method of warfare...because that's what it is, a war over ideals and the direction of the country.
...and we better somehow/someway find our own tactical advantage soon, or it's game-over.
There is no percolating anger on the part of the sovereigns of the American Republic because those who were the sovereign rulers have abdicated to the oligarchy and are nowdeposed, so the media propaganda machine manipulates them like the sheeple they gave become, by design.
A nation such as America, with 320 million sovereign voters (potentially) is a direct threat to the globalist agenda and must be destroyed. The media filth are eagerly aiding and abetting that abortion ...
Give us Barabas!
Let’s see who among us is part of the problem.
1.I do go to leftist media outlets and I respond with very thoughtful and fact filled posts to every story/posts that I can. The idea is to change new and undecided voters to Trump voters by being pro-active, not just raising cain among like minded voters on conservative sites.
2. If you are simply using your social media outlets and Free Republic to contact your buddies and ‘followers’, your mutual admiration of complimentary tweets/posts aren’t doing much at all to try to attract new and undecided voters.
So I encourage you to go to every leftist media outlet you can find and do good work for the cause there. You won’t do much good attracting new voters on conservative sites. A 1000 posts on FR cheering for Trump won’t get one additional vote in the election in my opinion.
I think it’s because o’Keef lost credibility with doctoring up the planned parenthood videos. The media doesn’t want to get in that mess again. It made the media look dumb.
I think you may be onto something there, Siberianheat.
Last night, I asked my brother to come over and view the videos with me. (I wanted to see if he had the same reaction to them that I did, and if he thought that would be somewhat universal reaction with a lot of people)
We only got through one of them (even though they are only about 15 min long each) and it was clear that it disturbed him...but it was also clear he didn't want to watch any more.
And, I realized, I was having trouble watching, too. If you accept the video is not fraudulent, then you may only have two choices as alternatives: Either everyone is doing it and things go on as they always have, or...we are screwed and corrupt to the core.
Neither of those is very palatable.
I have had the same concerns that you do. I posted this on Facebook a couple days ago.
Last year I read Erik Larson’s non fiction book, In The Garden of Beasts. It is the story of the American Ambassador to Germany, William Dodd and his family living in Berlin during Hitler’s rise to power. The thing that got me about the book was how the people didn’t seem to react to the horrors happening around them. It became so “normal” to them that they acted as though it was just part of life, like going grocery shopping or doing the laundry. I see the same things happening today, people just carrying on with their lives as though all the corruption within our government is no big deal.
Examples include: The IRS targeting TEA party members, Black Lives Thugs attacking/rioting, The Hammond’s being re-sentenced and sent back to jail (after they had already served their time for their supposed crime of lighting a back burn to stop a forest fire), the treatment of the Bundy Family both by the government and the media, the Murder of LaVoy Finicum by government authorities, Hillary Clinton and the Democrat party’s crimes, the coordination of the Press to enable loss of freedom and the ever increasing corruption of the whole system.
I feel like most of America is oblivious to the state of our country. They are self absorbed and they don’t want to be bothered with all these “conspiracy theories”. They have an attention span about as long as a Tweet.
At the same time, I am an optimist and a fighter so I do what I can. When I find a good article, I pick one sentence or a short paragraph and post it on Facebook with a link to the article/video. I make friends with complete strangers at every opportunity- at the doctor’s office, grocery store, etc. Educate people and pray a lot. Also, stock up on all the “End Times” supplies that I can afford and encourage my family and friends to do the same.
Did he doctor them up? What did he do, exactly?
They can ignore it forever, provided the Hildabitch wins.
Let’s see who among us is part of the problem.
.You go to leftist media outlets,. Acts shocked when you see that they arent reporting on it. Comes to FR and whines that they aren’t therefore “this is useless!!!!!!!!!!!!”
2)Me going to places where conservatives are actively trying to get this stuff trending upwards where people can see it, helping them out by voting up their posts, spreading it to other sites where people aren’t necessarily political and cluing them into this stuff. Spending a lot of my free time helping to comb through the emails on Reddit so others can take their turn getting it out to people they know that are either undecided or anti-Trump.
You think I’m sitting around talking to my “buddies”? give me a break, dude.
So you go on with your “very thoughtful and fact filled posts” in the comment section of some leftist news site and think you are really doing something.
Barbarras would be much much Much preferable to HilLIARy yes
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