Posted on 10/19/2016 1:03:48 PM PDT by Cheerio
When John Quincy Adams entered office in March, 1825, he had lofty ideas both domestically and on the global front. The younger Adams had one of the most impressive resumes of a new president. He was widely regarded as one of the most successful secretaries of state in our history, and presided over the tranquil years of the Monroe presidency. Yet, the Jacksonian Democrats who dominated Congress, buoyed by the voting bloc of the southern states, absolutely decimated Quincy’s agenda and rendered his entire presidency an utter failure. There is no reason the same dynamic cannot occur during a potential Hillary presidency. Sadly, it won’t until a true alternative party is conceived.
Whether you love, hate, or tolerate the current GOP nominee, the reality is that unless something cathartic occurs before the critical mass of early voting begins, Hillary Clinton will be elected president on November 8. Don’t shoot the messenger. Just three weeks out from the election (and much less when mass early voting is factored in), it’s time conservatives of all stripes at least give some thought as to a game-plan past the sensational news of the day in the media. Republicans like Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas. (F, 42%) already have a game plan in place if and when Hillary is elected: make Hillary’s presidency a great success. In other words, nothing too different from the GOP’s modus operandi during the Obama presidency.
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Should Hildabeast, the career criminal, be elected I say it is time for the third Battle of Manasas Junction (Bull Run for the Yankee crowd). Let’s get the heavy work finished so our children won’t have to do it. God, are there any where near enough true patriots left to do what would need to be done?
I hear you. I’ve always been unenrolled/ independent. I never wanted the GOP to think that they didn’t have to earn my vote.
Now, I despise many of them as much as the democrats.
Yes, exactly. Start out by becoming the congressional district swing vote that can either make or break candidates at all levels.
No, there will be no new Party, conservatism is over.
Unless the writer knows something we don't that's BS.
What Cornyn said earlier this month was:
"We'll do our duty, you know regardless of who is president," the Senate's No. 2 Republican told The Hill last week. "The people we serve want us to to work together for their benefit so that's certainly my posture."
Cornyn declined to name specific issues that he believes he and Clinton could work well together on.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Hillary Clinton or a pledge to do her bidding.
Here is a revealing tweet from an Austin Statesman reporter covering John Cornyn’s speech to a local Chamber of Commerce this week:
.@JohnCornyn says, regardless of prez elex, one area where parties can come together is criminal justice reform, esp prison reform #txlege
— Sean Walsh (@SeanCWalsh) October 12, 2016
Thus, Cornyn’s biggest agenda item for a Hillary presidency is to grant her George Soros’s top policy agenda — jailbreak — which will help create a permanent Democrat majority.
Cornyn's not saying he'll help Clinton or Soros. He's saying Congress will come up with something to address the issue. If voters want some action and if it's right and can be made to work, Congress will have to do something about it, and if Republicans are smart, they'll find a way to deal with the problem without caving in to the Democrats. Also, Cornyn's not saying that should be Congress's priority. It's just that he's on the Judiciary Committee, so that's what's on his own mind.
The battle to come, after Trump wins on Nov 8th, will require rigid steel spines, unshakably firm resolve, and the same kind of courage and spirit that won WWII. Anything less is anathema, and only hurts the cause as it aids the enemy.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Trump needs these overcooked noodles like he needs another... well, you get the point.
If we want to move policy in the right direction, we need a national party that can occasionally win the House, Senate, and White House.
IF the current Republican coalition is (1) too small and (2) too internally fractured to achieve that, then we need to change.
So: which constituent element(s) of the current GOP do you want to purge, and what major voting block(s) do you think we can add?
The Reagan coalition was the Eisenhower GOP minus much of the northeastern liberal wing, plus the anti-communist liberals repelled by the post-Vietnam democratic party, plus social and religious conservatives (many formerly democrats) repelled by the democrats' leftward lurch on moral issues, plus conservative southerners liberated politically by the end of Jim Crow. The Reagan coalition was good for a generation of political parity with major victories along the way.
It is hard to take Trump seriously on religious liberty issues, so I suppose the Trumpers are willing to jettison the religious right. Trump has gone isolationist and rhetorically pro-Putin on international affairs, so the advocates of strong American leadership around the world (and not just the neo-cons) will presumably be sidelined. Trump does not even pretend to be interested in entitlement reform or the budget or the constitution, and probably doesn't even know what the Gadsden flag is, so the Tea Partiers are being backhanded.
The only glue holding any of the coalition together today is that Trump is not Hillary, and he is a fighter. But take Hillary off the stage, and what are we left with after eliminating the Tea Party, the Christian right, foreign policy folks who still believe in American leadership and the idea of a free world, and constitutional conservatives concerned with executive overreach?
Start with the hard core Trumpsters who most closely mirror The Donald: protectionist on trade, anti-entitlement reform, pro-federal stimulus spending, indifferent to deficits, indifferent to religious liberty and social issues, and comfortable with a close big business-government collaboration on economic matters. (Remember: Trump was the pro-Kelo Republican in the race.) That gives you mostly union members who are willing to vote Republican. Take that as your base, and figure out how to get to 51 percent.
If you can do that, with a party that is right on spending, taxes, entitlement reform, religious liberty, and American leadership of the free world (including free trade), I'll be happy to join you (as long as you keep the elephant). You can choose the name of the new Party. But I expect that it is going to look a lot like the old one.
Independent is the way to go it seems
Yes, and if Clinton wins, I’m hoping Trump will lead his legions of supporters in the formation of a new political party, and thereby relegate the GOP to the dustbin of history.
Also, he and his wonderful family could do the world a great service by creating a first-class news organization charged with exposing the crimes of the Clinton regime and the criminals complicity of its Ministry of Propaganda, i.e., the MSM.
There will be no more party. It WILL become a puppet system of haves and have nots. Wars across the world and this country will be something you never thought you would imagine, almost apocalyptic without walking dead.
I believe if she is elected,Texas will secede from the union.
See my #48. Just what do you think such a party would look like? Forget about individual politicians with whom you are angry/disappointed/frustrated. Individuals come and go. The building blocks are major constituencies. Trump is not at home with any of the major blocks of the Reagan coalition. Most of them will support him this November because Hillary is worse, but that's not much of a basis for a reformed party.
I understand what you’re saying. However, every single person in my circle of acquaintances, almost all of whom are registered Republicans, have vowed to never again vote for any Republican candidate if Trump is defeated.
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