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Why conservatives will need a new party if/when Hillary wins
Conservative Review ^ | October 16, 2016 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 10/19/2016 1:03:48 PM PDT by Cheerio

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To: Cheerio

Should Hildabeast, the career criminal, be elected I say it is time for the third Battle of Manasas Junction (Bull Run for the Yankee crowd). Let’s get the heavy work finished so our children won’t have to do it. God, are there any where near enough true patriots left to do what would need to be done?


41 posted on 10/19/2016 2:01:08 PM PDT by DonPaulJonesII (The only thing worse than a democrat is a lousy, dishonest, disloyal scumbag republican.)
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To: JonPreston

I hear you. I’ve always been unenrolled/ independent. I never wanted the GOP to think that they didn’t have to earn my vote.

Now, I despise many of them as much as the democrats.


42 posted on 10/19/2016 2:01:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Alberta's Child; All

Yes, exactly. Start out by becoming the congressional district swing vote that can either make or break candidates at all levels.


43 posted on 10/19/2016 2:04:42 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Cheerio

No, there will be no new Party, conservatism is over.


44 posted on 10/19/2016 2:17:26 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Cheerio
Trump must win on November 8th or there will be no coming back within the existing social and legal order. Hillary will make citizens of many millions of illegals already inside the US and throw open the borders to millions more. A new party or the GOPe will be in the wilderness forever. The demographic change and the huge permanent dependent underclass she will import will assure national dominance for the Rats for generations or until the country collapses into anarchy.
45 posted on 10/19/2016 2:34:59 PM PDT by Truth29
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Republicans like Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas. (F, 42%) already have a game plan in place if and when Hillary is elected: make Hillary’s presidency a great success.

Unless the writer knows something we don't that's BS.

What Cornyn said earlier this month was:

"We'll do our duty, you know regardless of who is president," the Senate's No. 2 Republican told The Hill last week. "The people we serve want us to to work together for their benefit so that's certainly my posture."

Cornyn declined to name specific issues that he believes he and Clinton could work well together on.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Hillary Clinton or a pledge to do her bidding.

Here is a revealing tweet from an Austin Statesman reporter covering John Cornyn’s speech to a local Chamber of Commerce this week:

.@JohnCornyn says, regardless of prez elex, one area where parties can come together is criminal justice reform, esp prison reform #txlege

— Sean Walsh (@SeanCWalsh) October 12, 2016

Thus, Cornyn’s biggest agenda item for a Hillary presidency is to grant her George Soros’s top policy agenda — jailbreak — which will help create a permanent Democrat majority.

Cornyn's not saying he'll help Clinton or Soros. He's saying Congress will come up with something to address the issue. If voters want some action and if it's right and can be made to work, Congress will have to do something about it, and if Republicans are smart, they'll find a way to deal with the problem without caving in to the Democrats. Also, Cornyn's not saying that should be Congress's priority. It's just that he's on the Judiciary Committee, so that's what's on his own mind.

46 posted on 10/19/2016 2:35:17 PM PDT by x
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To: Cheerio
Farewell to all "the-sky-is-falling!" imbeciles in the GOP, who, like this yellow-dog yid author, represent everything about the GOP that the party and country are better off without.

The battle to come, after Trump wins on Nov 8th, will require rigid steel spines, unshakably firm resolve, and the same kind of courage and spirit that won WWII. Anything less is anathema, and only hurts the cause as it aids the enemy.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Trump needs these overcooked noodles like he needs another... well, you get the point.

47 posted on 10/19/2016 2:42:51 PM PDT by Gargantua ("President Trump... nice ring to it..." ;^)
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To: Cheerio
Fine. I don't care what the name is but I want to keep the elephant because I have too many great elephant ties to give up on that. But here's the deal:

If we want to move policy in the right direction, we need a national party that can occasionally win the House, Senate, and White House.

IF the current Republican coalition is (1) too small and (2) too internally fractured to achieve that, then we need to change.

So: which constituent element(s) of the current GOP do you want to purge, and what major voting block(s) do you think we can add?

The Reagan coalition was the Eisenhower GOP minus much of the northeastern liberal wing, plus the anti-communist liberals repelled by the post-Vietnam democratic party, plus social and religious conservatives (many formerly democrats) repelled by the democrats' leftward lurch on moral issues, plus conservative southerners liberated politically by the end of Jim Crow. The Reagan coalition was good for a generation of political parity with major victories along the way.

It is hard to take Trump seriously on religious liberty issues, so I suppose the Trumpers are willing to jettison the religious right. Trump has gone isolationist and rhetorically pro-Putin on international affairs, so the advocates of strong American leadership around the world (and not just the neo-cons) will presumably be sidelined. Trump does not even pretend to be interested in entitlement reform or the budget or the constitution, and probably doesn't even know what the Gadsden flag is, so the Tea Partiers are being backhanded.

The only glue holding any of the coalition together today is that Trump is not Hillary, and he is a fighter. But take Hillary off the stage, and what are we left with after eliminating the Tea Party, the Christian right, foreign policy folks who still believe in American leadership and the idea of a free world, and constitutional conservatives concerned with executive overreach?

Start with the hard core Trumpsters who most closely mirror The Donald: protectionist on trade, anti-entitlement reform, pro-federal stimulus spending, indifferent to deficits, indifferent to religious liberty and social issues, and comfortable with a close big business-government collaboration on economic matters. (Remember: Trump was the pro-Kelo Republican in the race.) That gives you mostly union members who are willing to vote Republican. Take that as your base, and figure out how to get to 51 percent.

If you can do that, with a party that is right on spending, taxes, entitlement reform, religious liberty, and American leadership of the free world (including free trade), I'll be happy to join you (as long as you keep the elephant). You can choose the name of the new Party. But I expect that it is going to look a lot like the old one.

48 posted on 10/19/2016 2:45:07 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: JonPreston

Independent is the way to go it seems


49 posted on 10/19/2016 3:26:07 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Cheerio

Yes, and if Clinton wins, I’m hoping Trump will lead his legions of supporters in the formation of a new political party, and thereby relegate the GOP to the dustbin of history.

Also, he and his wonderful family could do the world a great service by creating a first-class news organization charged with exposing the crimes of the Clinton regime and the criminals complicity of its Ministry of Propaganda, i.e., the MSM.


50 posted on 10/19/2016 4:02:48 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (HRC, the chief puppet of anti-American Globalists.)
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There will be no more party. It WILL become a puppet system of haves and have nots. Wars across the world and this country will be something you never thought you would imagine, almost apocalyptic without walking dead.

I believe if she is elected,Texas will secede from the union.


51 posted on 10/19/2016 4:24:44 PM PDT by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
if Clinton wins, I’m hoping Trump will lead his legions of supporters in the formation of a new political party

See my #48. Just what do you think such a party would look like? Forget about individual politicians with whom you are angry/disappointed/frustrated. Individuals come and go. The building blocks are major constituencies. Trump is not at home with any of the major blocks of the Reagan coalition. Most of them will support him this November because Hillary is worse, but that's not much of a basis for a reformed party.

52 posted on 10/19/2016 4:32:39 PM PDT by sphinx
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I understand what you’re saying. However, every single person in my circle of acquaintances, almost all of whom are registered Republicans, have vowed to never again vote for any Republican candidate if Trump is defeated.


53 posted on 10/19/2016 4:59:42 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (HRC, the chief puppet of anti-American Globalists.)
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54 posted on 10/19/2016 5:16:57 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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