Posted on 10/17/2016 11:46:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
What I find most surprising today is that the insiders and the elite have no idea what is percolating just beneath the surface. Okay, maybe their arrogance actually produces its own fog, so it should not come as a surprise that they are blinded. They do not look at the calendar, which, if one really looks, says "1788" on it. Something is close. Very close. Society is near the breaking point.
My own experience is that Hillarys so-called Deplorables are actually the most reserved, most polite, and most honest demographic in the country. They are more informed, more self-reliant, and among other things, better armed. Regarding their arms, they are incredibly responsible, and not the source of the violence for which the implement, and not the person, is too often blamed. The Deplorables have the longest fuse. It is, however, a fuse.
Alt Left, on the other hand, are the Neo Fascists and Neo Neocons. It is Alt Left that thinks Free Speech means THEIR speech only. It is Alt Left that needs 'safe spaces' and wants to enforce thought crime.
It is Alt Left, and its media lapdog sites, that is heavily into censorship of ideas that diverge from their approved ideology. It is Alt Left that champions regime change and ratcheting up the rhetoric against Russia. It is Alt Left that believes it has an inherent right, even an obligation, to lie and obfuscate if it serves their greater purpose.
Perhaps most significant is that it is Alt Left who so quickly resorts to violence and vandalism when confronted with people and ideas with which it takes exception. Never has that been as clear as in this election cycle.
The Deplorables, however, are not possessed of infinite patience. Like a capacitor, there is a charge building, and at some point it will be released into the circuitry of society.
The media and other insiders believe themselves to be immune. That thought no doubt results from being immersed inside a cocoon where dissonant voices are not allowed. When the levee breaks, or the capacitor releases its charge, they are going to be gob smacked.
Precious few of them are anywhere near as immune as they believe themselves to be. Additionally, what they might think, or hope, is their support, their security, their safe space, doesn't really exist.
Most of society's guardians, whether they are law enforcement or military, are card-carrying members of the Deplorables.
France was similarly constructed in the late 1780s. The elite were isolated only in thought, not in reality. Their protection was of a Potemkin Village nature: not actually there, but merely a facade that gave them false comfort.
They paid dearly for their arrogance and ignorance.
History may not repeat, but it does rhyme. The calendar really does seem to say 1788, so 1789---and 1792--are not as far off as some would like to believe.
This is not a call to arms, but it is a call to reality. Ignore it at your own peril.
Some may see these words as a threat. They are not. They are, however, a warning, and a warning from someone who is a student of history.
Every society eventually reaches a breaking point. Ours is nearly there. Some of those who might feel threatened, the so-called elite and insiders, think that they can buy protection as easily as they can buy a Gulfstream. How naïve! Who are the private security contractors? Who are the various SOGs? Like law enforcement and the rest of the military, they are the Deplorables. The Deplorables will take your money, but you will not take their lives. Better said, they wont give up their lives for you or your family. The security you believe you have purchased is an illusion. Make that delusion. Best to get that out front here and now.
Some who feel threatened, or nervous, might fall back on the tired adage of We gave them (the Deplorables) everything; what do they think they will do without us? Well, the use of we is arrogant, because those who have actually produced something of value are few and far between. Industrialists, for lack of a better term, are those who produced for society things of lasting value. There are few true industrialists today, and many who still remain have shipped their production overseas, jacking up the compensation of bonus-based execs, but contributing to the hollowing out of America. The true industrialists did produce the cars, trucks, machine tools, generators, servers and even computers. They produced lifesaving medicines and treatments. They made steel plants and built railroads.
They produced jobs. They even produced the guns that the Deplorables have by the hundreds of millions. The Deplorables recognize that entire contribution.
Mark Zuckerberg, however, is not Henry Ford. Jack Dorsey is not Andrew Carnegie. Mark Benioff is not John Rockefeller. Lloyd Blankfein is not John Pierpont Morgan. (Elon Musk might turn out to be someone of significance, if he is allowed to fail and is forgiven for it. Time will tell.) The old Robber Barons, despite their faults, did produce things of lasting value.
What did these new titans of industry give us? Facebook? Snapchat?
Twitter? They gave us banality and pabulum. Some embraced it, despite its triteness, perhaps because all other meaning had already been lost, like Americas exported jobs. These new titans, Neo Titans, did little more than help dumb down society. They made America less productive, less curious, more pedestrian. Maybe they think they gave us the internet, but credit for that goes to DARPA, which is to say the military, which is to say the Deplorables. The Neo Titans gave America nothing, at least nothing positive. Social networking? Gaming? Selfies?
The Deplorables can live without the silly oxymoron called social networking, which, as anyone who looks at it objectively knows, is anything but social. We dont care what two thousand of our fake friends had for breakfast, or what Andrew Ross Sorkin thinks of the latest Presidential debate. He probably thinks we do. After all, he has Twitter Followers, whom he assumes live and die by his every Tweet. We can live without that. I wonder if his ego can? He, and those of his ilk, are merely Kim Kardashians without knowing it. They are the talentless dishing out white bread to the emotionally and spiritually starved.
Some might think this is all Trumps fault. Again, that shows a degree of ignorance and naïveté which characterizes the elite. Trump is a symptom, not a cause. He might even be a salve, as the changes he could bring might defuse some of the current anger.
On the other hand, Hillary is a lit match in a room of dynamite. She, like many of the self-important, thinks her very existence is a favor to the rest of us. She epitomizes the absolute worst of what America has become. Above the law, wealthy not through accomplishment, but through influence peddling only, and a bull in a china shop in terms of her effect on both the country and the world---and I apologize to bulls for that analogy. The world is more unstable because of her.
America is less safe because of her. Russia and the US---the two largest nuclear powers---are more at odds because of her. With her in power, we will reach the breaking point at home and internationally, perhaps leading to accidental nuclear war, as the heightened rhetoric impacts clear thinking. Society is more stratified because of her. Race relations have deteriorated because of her (and Obama).
There are few current ills in society and in geopolitics that cannot be laid at her feet, at least to some extent. The Great Deceiver to many, who exhibits an astonishing aversion to truth telling, is enough to make even an agnostic wonder if the anti-Christ hasnt finally arrived for its three and a half years of rule.
A recently hacked email of John Podesta finds him saying she (Hillary) has begun to hate everyday Americans. No doubt the same feelings were voiced by Nicolas Ceaucescu. It turned out the feeling was mutual.
Elect Hillary, and continue with business as usual, and it is likely this warning will become an epitaph for the America we know. Society may collapse regardless, because the rot is already very great, but she will hasten the day of reckoning.
The Deplorables have already considered what is coming. They are as prepared as they can be. Years of decline have enabled many to build their survival skills, to make due with less, to build real communities where one man can trust another, to discover what is truly important and what can and should be salvaged from this society.
Outside of that demographic, however, people are stark naked. They are vulnerable in ways they simply cannot imagine. They are unprepared and unskilled for what will matter most. They are cannon fodder living on borrowed time.
History is full of examples of this sort of collapse. We humans have always rolled along a sine wave of progress and decline, of civility and social unrest. We think we have outgrown the sort of mayhem with which the history books are full, but that thought stems from recency bias. Most of history---the vast majority---is not peaceful.
Societies are not, on average, stable and safe. Thomas Hobbes knew that quite well, as evidenced in his most famous quote. Humanity is likely on the verge of returning to the mean, and the mean is exactly that: mean. In case some have forgotten their Hobbes: solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.
Have a nice day.
Yup.
Actually, your attitude is exactly what America needs.
“The Elite Have No Idea...”
Change that to the scu&bags have no idea.
They’ve engaged in every manner of perfidy and subversion to gain what they thought was their “economic well-being”.
They’ve destroyed psyches, families, and not least of all,
The Constitution.
Will these scu&bags reap what they’ve sown? One can only hope.
Just saying.
IMHO
I had an argument with several research post-docs regarding their utopian vision of what people will do when we get rid of all the jobs.
* Just because you find such work boring and demeaning doesn’t mean those with an average or below average IQ do. In fact, it gives them social status, purpose and interaction. Your biases are clouding your decision on what is best for these people.
* You imagine a paradise when many jobs are eliminated. Want a real life precursor? The inner cities already relying heavily on welfare with drugs, crime, broken families, despair. And by driving automation on purpose regardless of the human cost, you’re creating more of said crime.
* The idea that people will suddenly volunteer more is disproved by the same worldwide phenomena. It is the people who already have jobs who volunteer, the janitor who then works an afternoon picking up trash at the park. Instead, we have welfare recipients and able bodied people on social security with ADD unwilling to pick up trash where they live.
* You are assuming that shifting to AI to make decisions is unbiased. No, it will have the biases of the programmers - and those are currently people who programmed the decision making algorithms that denied a woman in Oregon cancer treatment and sent her info on assisted suicide, or HMOs that denied care due to cost but now the doctor will be even more limited by the all-powerful computer that puts little value on human life.
I don’t know if I actually got through any of their heads. They’d never even HEARD pro-human arguments like this. If I hadn’t been a female engineer talking about the future of STEM and technology, thus a novelty, they’d likely have ignored me.
Black people calling for death to whites and segregation of whites increasingly attacking whites in mob violence (and in smaller groups via the Knockout Game/Polar Bear Hunting) are somehow exempt from the discussion on how to respect one another.
He has tapped it, Durden sees the truth.
We are in such trouble.
This was a general statement. No personal offense intended.
1. Those government workers awake and willing to warn other of the threat posed by government. Whistleblowers and those seeking to undermine and expose corrupt government instiutions. These are patriots but a small minority.
2. Those awake, but inactive. They want to live under the radar.
3. Those that are aware in some sense, but in denial because of cognitive dissonance.
4. Those that are completely ignorant. Watching NFL and DWTS.
5. Those that are aware and on board with tyranny and will do what it takes for advancement in the evil system.
I would imagine that most would fit into 2-4. The problem is that these people keep the evil system going and are complicit.
I have been saying stuff like this for months.
You get it. This is what it takes.
That is true.
Yes that is him. I was just reminded of that yesterday as I finished the video. They called him "Butch" because he butchered the Germans. I felt that he was shown in a more positive light as they reminded us of who and what England was up against. The enemy was a hideous and brutal dictatorship and they were winning every conflict. We only bombed during daylight hours because our "new bomb sights" required line of sight. England didn't depend on that. The loss of planes and airman was terrible for England. Can you imagine getting on a plane with only about a 66 percent chance of returning, then doing it again the next day and then the next?
Indeed, this deserves a CW II Ping!
FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.
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“The idea that people will suddenly volunteer more is disproved by the same worldwide phenomena.”
This one keeps baffling me. While it may occasionally occur, and proponents of the notion may keep company with those who do, my recurring experience is what you conclude. Time and again: when I go out to actively & directly assist the needy, I usually find they are able-bodied adults spending the day in their PJs sitting around watching TV in housing paid for by others (or, sometimes, actively destroying what little they do have) - while I’m sacrificing my time/money/skills to feed them & fix their stuff. For a great many, their aspiration in life is (to quote Nirvana) “here we are now, entertain us”; those who actually have the “volunteer” mindset are naturally productive enough to only need brief help and proceed to earn their own way, not needing society to hand them freebies just so they can “volunteer”.
As for your other points:
- Ancient Japanese culture (among others) found great value in treating “boring & demeaning” jobs with high honor, each doing their very best and raising their occupation to an art form - even if so mundane as “floor sweeper”. I take great pride & care in all things, finding no act “boring or demeaning”.
- Those not, as above, naturally taking care in all things are still in need of occupation and challenge; lacking it, they either devolve into abject boredom filled with petty amusements (TV), or create artificial challenges & conflicts (organized crime).
- I write software for a living. No way in he11 do I want public policy set & enforced by software, precisely because I know how it will fail - and fail it will.
Amazing how many people have full faith in the natural self-advancement and mutual-care of the population at large. Get rid of jobs as a necessity thru some utopian scheme, and we’ll quickly devolve into abject tribalism. “Utopian”, for that matter, comes from the book “Utopia” where the author depicts exactly such a perfect society, satirically demonstrating how completely f***ed up it will become.
What were you doing 1965-1969? My life was not care free and it was frequently violent.
When the boat tips over, I don’t think many people will make it to the shore.
Mass immigration mixed with multiculturalism has eroded our social cohesion as one people.
I got into a pretty nasty discussion with someone who thought that “Freeing the poor from work to survive” was a brilliant idea, and who refused to account for the fact that poor people with nothing to do are more dangerous to themselves and others than a can of gasoline because the can doesn’t walk away and pour itself all over your porch.
Not to mention that poor people with nothing to do have a bad habit of getting all their exercise on a mattress when their home situation is such that they wouldn’t be allowed to adopt a stray kitten from my city’s animal shelter.
Once talked to a WW2 vet who said his name with the same tone my pastor talked about demons. I was young at the time but what I remember was basically England didn’t have anywhere near the capability to do what he wanted. So he ended up killing enough Fraulein and kinder to make the Nazis mad as all hell (and Lord help the man facing an angry German) while getting scarce war material and pilots lost.
I asked him what should’ve been done and he said “put every man-jack into a Spitfire and shot down every Hun we could get a bullet into until all their good crews were gone.”
Charles Murray’s book “Coming Apart” and others on how we have a young adult generation now completely isolated socially from the middle and lower class - so they have no idea what it is like and are prone to assigning collective guilt for it - seems very apt.
Even among Gen X, I’m the exception of being middle class but working my way through high school and college. No one around me ever knew what it was like to be poor except maybe briefly during a divorce.
“..using industrialized methods...”
So they’d like to believe.
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