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Yes, folks, free markets actually work
1 posted on 09/28/2016 9:02:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 09/28/2016 9:03:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Just one of a basket of deplorables)
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Ah, yes. My Country ‘tis of Thee

Sweet land of Subsidy...


3 posted on 09/28/2016 9:08:59 PM PDT by ASOC (Have *you* visited the World of the Chernyi?)
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4 posted on 09/28/2016 9:10:25 PM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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No no no. We need to protect our farmers industries, bureaucrats and jobs from foreign competition...


5 posted on 09/28/2016 9:11:31 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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Yes, and sometimes it’s possible for them to work too good too.

What happens if there is no government oversight and one year everyone decides that corn is the best crop based on last year’s price?

This year most farmers spend their money on a corn crop. They put a lot of money into it, and when harvest time comes around, this is when everyone finds out.

This year the sales price of corn drops to 25% of what it was the previous year, because of an over abundance.

Overnight 40% of the farmers in the U. S. can’t get a decent price for their crop and they are bankrupt.

The next year, there are not corn crops. The price of corn skyrockets and supplies are not sufficient.

The next year, it starts all over, folks hoping to make a great profit off of corn since there’s a big need, based on the previous year.

If you have a solution to this, I’d be glad to hear it.

I admit I fudged the figure to make my point, but this argument isn’t without merit.

People are paid not to grow certain crops to avoid this.


6 posted on 09/28/2016 9:14:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (41 days: Until Presdient Pre-elect becomes President Elect Donald J. Trump. Help is on the way!)
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7 posted on 09/28/2016 9:18:45 PM PDT by aquila48
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Yes but agricultural subsidies is a good hedge.

The problem isn’t the ideas. The problem is the implementation by greedy politicians and bureaucrats.


8 posted on 09/28/2016 9:20:17 PM PDT by Fhios ( Globalism is the new Communism - Islamism is the new Fascism.)
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Farmers are the biggest freeloaders in this country. Just look at the bills and you will puke of disgust.


11 posted on 09/28/2016 9:31:19 PM PDT by sagar
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Most, not all, but most American farmers would agree to eliminating subsidies. Going cold turkey probably wouldn't work here, but a five year draw-down most certainly would.

I recall my Uncle Ed, an Oklahoma wheat farmer, "They say if they take away subsidies and allotments, we'll have $2 wheat. OK! All right! Let us plant fence line to fence line and I'll take $2 wheat!" The recollection is circa mid-fifties and, as I recall, the support price was around $2.80.

19 posted on 09/28/2016 9:45:04 PM PDT by okie01 ( --)
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I have been to NZ a few times to visit grandchild and his parents - food is quite expensive, but of high quality. They are proud of the high quality and rightly so. However, I don’t know how anyone affords to live there with the extremely high housing prices/food/energy/gas, etc. Lovely people, Lovely land, though.


24 posted on 09/28/2016 10:10:20 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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38 posted on 09/29/2016 12:20:55 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.)
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"Hausman, like others in the industry, is careful not to equate New Zealand’s experience with what could happen in the U.S. He is thankful for federally subsidized crop insurance that his government provides."

...The essence of the fear that keeps people under the thumb of socialists. This Hausman guy not only likes, but needs his cage.

I haven't looked at this NZ situation closely, but I bet the only reason the programs were cut was to save other programs, or gov employee salaries, benefits, and pensions. So I doubt NZ will be discarding its other socialist inclinations anytime soon.

39 posted on 09/29/2016 12:37:27 AM PDT by fruser1
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about time...

my father used to tell of the time that the government dumped tons of good potatoes into the Tasman Sea ...


40 posted on 09/29/2016 2:20:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Yes, folks, free markets actually work

Who knew ?

41 posted on 09/29/2016 3:15:53 AM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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Average poster here has no idea how much tax cash is paid to farmers not to grow or cultivate land

It’s amazing

I’m ambivalent


44 posted on 09/29/2016 4:49:40 AM PDT by wardaddy (free republic is an aging demographic)
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Average poster here has no idea how much tax cash is paid to farmers not to grow or cultivate land

It’s amazing

I’m ambivalent


45 posted on 09/29/2016 4:49:43 AM PDT by wardaddy (free republic is an aging demographic)
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BTTT


89 posted on 09/29/2016 7:30:12 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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Sorry, but I gotta tell you, federally subsidized crop insurance is not a program I would ever contemplate getting rid of.

There are a lot of things I would be willing to change with respect to agricultural policy, but that one ain’t one of them. The fact that a Farmer can safely invest in his crops for the following year with some insurance that if they fail due to weather that he isn’t bankrupted by it, is fine with me.

We went through the dust bowl to learn that lesson, no need to do it again.


93 posted on 09/30/2016 6:20:32 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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