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USC Dornsife/LA Times Election Poll: Trump lead widens day after debate
USC Dornsife ^ | September 28, 2016

Posted on 09/28/2016 12:13:57 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist

This chart tracks our best estimate, over time, of how America plans to vote in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at cesrusc.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016debates; 2016polls; clinton; election; elections; hillary; poll; polls; trump; trumplandslidecoming
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To: pburgh01
Ted Cruz lost..please, please get over it.

What the hell are you talking about?


81 posted on 09/28/2016 5:58:46 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Hillary might kill Bill, but she will never kill herself.


82 posted on 09/28/2016 6:01:30 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: nathanbedford

“...extracted from the private economy...”

Why would using government money for contracts to hire private construction workers and buy materials from private manufacturing companies be a bad thing?

I fully realize that government spending doesn’t grow the economy per se - I totally get this. Trump’s plan to bring back our manufacturing to this country, deregulate business and fix the trade deficits are on track for real/actual/tangible economic growth.

These are two separate areas; we need to hire people to fix our infrastructure AND we need to grow the private sector and bring back the jobs that NAFTA sent overseas.

Trump probably sees this as a BOTH/AND scenario.


83 posted on 09/28/2016 6:02:36 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: stonehouse01
I think you missed this paragraph in my reply:

All in all, infrastructure spending by government is an inefficient way to grow the economy. It may be that infrastructure should be improved but that is a decision which should be made on its own merits not as a job producing measure or sold as such.


84 posted on 09/28/2016 6:07:13 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: Windflier

There’s no difference, but they are trying to mask their true colors by giving Marxism a fancier name. I won’t oblige.


85 posted on 09/28/2016 6:08:18 AM PDT by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)
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To: BlueStateRightist; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Ping-A-Ding-Dong-Doolie!..............


86 posted on 09/28/2016 6:13:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: Varsity Flight

Very interesting point you’ve made to tie in such an unrelated question into setting up for the fix.

Being reporteded this am that jeh w/DHS has already been asked to help over 18 states with election security issues.


87 posted on 09/28/2016 6:15:13 AM PDT by thinden
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To: mbrfl
Many Trump supporters initially felt Trump lost the debate because he didn`t deliver a knockout blow.

True. That's how I felt.

88 posted on 09/28/2016 6:15:28 AM PDT by Canedawg (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -J.Adams)
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To: Red Badger

Woo Hoo!!!!!!!


89 posted on 09/28/2016 6:15:43 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I am so very blessed! Thank You, JESUS!)
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To: SamAdams76
Debates are so overrated. Usually the candidate who "outdebates" the other candidate is hailed by the MSM as the victor but what the people at home are looking for are intangibles, such as "can I picture this person as my president".

I also think debates are overrated. They are a relic of a bygone era. Maybe they mattered in the Lincoln-Douglas era or the Kennedy-Nixon era. They really don't matter as much now. Candidates can reach the people with their message in an instant.
90 posted on 09/28/2016 6:21:41 AM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: nathanbedford

“...missed...”

No. I understand that rebuilding infrastructure is not a job producing measure in the sense that it fixes the underlying unemployment problem and I clearly stated it.

Trump is not using the infrastructure issue as his means to fix the economy.

It is a separate problem to be solved. I am simply pointing out that the blue collar construction jobs that would result in parallel would not be a bad thing - I am not suggesting - as a liberal would - that this would fix the underlying problem.

Trump FULLY realizes that one has to grow the economy by bringing back manufacturing. It is one of his major platforms and this ignoring this to “prove” that Trump is actually not conservative does not really work. I think you missed my statement that Trump’s position is BOTH/AND.


91 posted on 09/28/2016 6:24:02 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: nathanbedford

I think that’s a reaction to “Tramp,” including an assumption that you’re a NeverTrump, Cruz guy. Ah, the Army guys are so right about the word “assume.”

FYI, FOAD is “f off and die,” just in case you weren’t being sarcastic to the other guy. Again, that assume thing is working its special kind of magic.


92 posted on 09/28/2016 6:27:33 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: needmorePaine

For at least the last several election cycles, the so-called debates have been so tightly scripted as to virtually remove the concept of an actual debate from the event. Neither side wishes to take too much of a risk, so all kinds of rules are put into place to avoid truly stunning defeats. Of course, that does not prevent somebody from really screwing up badly, but the intent is to avoid something like that. This is contrary to the free-for-all nature of the true debates that our politicians engaged in in the 1800s and early 1900s.


93 posted on 09/28/2016 6:32:03 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: stonehouse01
It is one of his major platforms and this ignoring this to “prove” that Trump is actually not conservative does not really work

I thought Trump was an anti-globalist, nationalist, populist?

Seriously, Trump has some conservative virtues but lacks many others such as acceding to an increase in the minimum wage and creating an entirely new entitlement. But we are now in a binary choice situation and the alternative is utterly unacceptable.


94 posted on 09/28/2016 6:32:58 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: BlueStateRightist

Nate Silver needs a recipe for the crow, he will be eating!

Clinton Won The Debate, Which Means She’s Likely To Gain In The Polls

If she doesn’t, Trump could be tough to beat.

By Nate Silver

Filed under 2016 Election

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton before the first presidential debate at Hofstra University on Monday in Hempstead, New York. EVAN VUCCI / AP

Democrats woke up on Monday to a spate of bad polls for Hillary Clinton, which brought Donald Trump to perhaps his closest position yet in the Electoral College. They had reason to go to bed feeling a lot better.

Clinton bested Trump in the first presidential debate according to a variety of metrics, and the odds are that she’ll gain in head-to-head polls over Trump in the coming days.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/clinton-won-the-debate-which-means-shes-likely-to-gain-in-the-polls/

Nate, it is [ast time for you to retire and shut up!


95 posted on 09/28/2016 6:47:40 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (In a time of universal deceit - teIllling the truth is a revolutionary act! George Orwell)
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To: needmorePaine
Plus people forget about debates pretty quickly. Already Tuesday night's debate is sliding into the memory hole for most people. I'm a political junkie and the only things I remember about the primary debates was Meghan Kelly's obnoxious questioning of Trump and Jebbie Bush up on his tippy toes. Also, I remember Ted Cruz saying something about "New York values" that didn't really help him much.

Certain things stick in your mind about debates over the long term, usually blunders like George Bush checking his watch or Gerard Ford seeming to not realize that Eastern Europe was under Soviet control. Or one liners like "There you go again" and "Where's the beef."

But given a couple more weeks, most people are going to be hard-pressed to remember much about Tuesday's debate. No major mistakes were made and no memorable one-liners were delivered.

96 posted on 09/28/2016 7:22:37 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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To: oblomov
Living among NYC progressives clarifies my thinking and has only reinforced my conservative beliefs.

As it should.

Yes, my NY friends are socially liberal as well, but none would ever vote Democrat. Ever.

97 posted on 09/28/2016 7:25:07 AM PDT by BlueCat
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To: SamAdams76

Remember the complaining mere weeks ago about how many GOP debates there were before the convention? Nobody remembers there were about 20 of them in the 2012 cycle, and hardly anyone can recall a single detail from then.


98 posted on 09/28/2016 7:28:04 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: ozzymandus
Hillary "won" the debate. Trump wins the votes. It remionds me of the old Patsy Cline song.

I've got your picture that you gave to me
And it's signed with love, just like it used to be
The only thing different, the only thing new
I've got your picture, she's got you

I've got the records that we used to share
And they still sound the same as when you were here
The only thing different, the only thing new
I've got the records, she's got you

I've got your memory, or has it got me
I really don't know, but I know it won't let me be
I've got your class ring that proved you cared
And it still looks the same as when you gave it, dear
The only thing different, the only thing new
I've got these little things, she's got you

99 posted on 09/28/2016 7:30:40 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: jjotto
Nobody remembers there were about 20 of them in the 2012 cycle, and hardly anyone can recall a single detail from then.

Although we all remember Trump saying "Only Rosie O'Donnell", Cruz' reciting the caricatures assigned to the candidates by the "moderators" ("Mr. Trump, are you a comic book super villain?"), Trump's counter to Cruz' NY values statement by recalling 9/11 and Chris Christie's take down of Rubio as being a robot repeating the same rehearsed phrase over and over. Other than those, you are quite right.
100 posted on 09/28/2016 7:33:51 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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