Posted on 09/27/2016 4:28:52 AM PDT by Wolfie
The most popular store brand is Lifeway Kefir. I know that the Kroger chain carries it, as do many others. Sometimes it is in the health food section and/or the yogurt section. Tasty, and not very expensive at all. Very low lactose.
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At some health food stores, they also sell “Kefir grains”, which looks like dry cottage cheese. Some people make their own Kefir, especially if they prefer it made with whole milk.
As far as my knowledge, I was friends with a research rheumatologist a few years back, with a strong interest in the (jaw droppingly complicated) immune system, which is very interactive with the biome. With 100 different forms of arthritis, and 200 different forms of rheumatism, he had to be very pragmatic and experimental to find treatments for his patients. Everything from simple fruit juices and herbs, to old cures (like sulfa drugs) used “off-label” to cutting edge pharma was open season.
In any event, as a bonus treatment it would be really good to have something on hand for:
Clostridium difficile (C. diff) is a drug resistant, highly infectious pathogen all over the US right now, about half a million infections a year (29,000 killed), that create horrible diarrhea for around two weeks, and just wrack the heck out of you. It can also lead to painful colitis, internal damage and overall misery for a month. There is no really effective FDA approved treatment for it in the US.
But in Japan, Korea and China, a probiotic prophylaxis for it has been around for decades and is simplicity itself.
Clostridium butyricum was discovered in 1933, and in 1968 a new strain, called CBM 588 MIYAIRI was discovered. It is completely non-pathological.
But it eats what C. diff eats, and its waste products strongly inhibit the growth of C. diff.
It is manufactured by one company in Japan, and sold as MIYARISAN tablets. It is available on both Amazon and ebaY. Of course, being shipped from Japan, it takes weeks to get here, so it would be a good idea to have some on hand. Not a big price to pay for not having the next best thing to cholera.
Unfortunately Louisiana has no Kroger grocery stores. Fortunately they do have an online store where is can be purchased. Might be a little more expensive that way but sounds like a worthwhile expenditure especially for those of us who are in the latter stages of middle age. 8>)
Just out of curiosity, since they are rather expensive, would say like a bottle a week be a good regime to engage in? I'm sure even 1 a month would help, but thought I would ask what your recommendations are.
Again, thanks for sharing your wealth of information. It is greatly appreciated and received.
Here’s the Lifeway retail search.
http://lifewaykefir.com/where-to-buy/
Should be plenty of convenient retails near where you live.
As far as how much, as with many probiotics, it is a good idea to start slow. Some people get a bit of gas, but they get over it quickly. But, it’s tasty, which makes things easier. It’s also highly recommended for the elderly, if you know any, because they especially need a healthy biome for digestion.
Oh good they do have them at Winn Dixie and even Walmart. Thanks.
So what are your recommendations as to how often one should consume a bottle? Once a week enough?
I would start slow with just a half cup. After a day or two that could be increased to a cup. If there is no problem after that, as much and as often as you like.
Actually, I was thinking the minimal amount. At almost 60 dollars, if I am reading those prices correctly, for 6 bottles that can get rather costly quickly. I don’t really want an additional 600.00 monthly expenditure (for both my wife & I). So I was wondering what would be a good amount to just improve and maintain. After all, nothing is going to make me feel like 20 again LOL.
Whew. You might want to shop around. A quart of Kefir where I live is anywhere from $2.50 to $3.50. The “organic” version they sell is a little more, but nothing like those prices. Are you buying a refrigerated product mail order?
I was talking to my wife about our conversation, and she said I have probiotics. She went and pulled out a bottle of Accubloom, unopened. She said the doctor told me to get them so I did, but I have never have used them. I didn't ask when she bought them, so I said I might as well take them. I also didn't tell her that she doesn't need to buy what the doctor tells her to buy, especially if she isn't going to use it. Got to love her though.
They say to take 2 a day as they are time released over 12 hours. Matter of fact I just now took my first one and will have the second one at 6 Am.M. in the morning.
Also how many were of people who were doing both legal & illegal. It is rare for someone doing legal drugs and following the prescribed amount faithfully to overdose. That would usually result due to a pharmacy, or drug manufacturer, mistake. Also if they are taking other medicines that adversely interact with each other, in which case that is almost always a pharmacy mistake.
As a recovered alcoholic I also detest the celebration of alcohol. I have seen the worst from both an alcoholics view, a Law Enforcement’s view and now as a counselor for mostly Veterans. I deal with drug counseling also which mainly involves Vet’s who have been shut off from the VA. With the help of a couple of friends we’ve had about a 60% success rate. While I went through a full medical detox and a 30 day rehab, many cannot afford that, it ran about 50,000 dollars. We’ve developed a much simpler and cheaper way for most depending on the level of dependency. Many of our boys have been able to home detox with the help of a local Doctor who is one of my friends involved. My phone stays on 24 hours a day and I’m always ready to roll when one of my boys need me.
(At 50+ no one can control what he does.)
You can not rehab someone who doesn’t want to stop, that’s where counseling come into play. That counseling can only come from someone who’s been there.
Old story about addiction.
Man falls into a hole and starts yelling for help.
Preacher comes to the edge and says I’ll pray for you.
Rich man comes to the edge and threw 200 dollars to him.
A Grocer comes to the edge and threw him some bread and water.
A recovered addict comes to the edge and jumps in the hole with him.
The man tells the addict he must be crazy since they were now both in the hole.
The addicts says “Don’t worry I’ve been here before and know the way out”.
And nothing can be done when counseling is refused as well as meds for booze induced health conditions. Some people just never grow up and become responsible adults. He is one of them, never was forced to. It is more than a dependency on booze, but also a dependency on some one else to take care of him like our mother did until she died.
She did him no favors in letting him be a baby all his life and solving all his problems for him. While we girls grew up and became responsible adults with families of our own, and made sure they became responsible adults. My 15 yr old grandson has more sense and responsibility than a 50+ year old baby who calls himself a man.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink it as the old saying goes. You can only minimize the damage they do as best you can. My middle sis has more patience that I do. I’d not tolerate it at all. My boys thought I was mean when I made them mind and grow up and learn to take care of themselves. Tough, they now appreciate I turned them into responsible adults who can do so.
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