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Sailor says Navy punished her for not standing for 'Star Spangled Banner'
New York Times ^ | September 22, 2016 | WITW Staff

Posted on 09/22/2016 7:25:38 PM PDT by kevcol

Ervin explained in her Facebook post that on September 19, "while in uniform, I made the conscious decision to not stand for the Star Spangled Banner because I feel like a hypocrite, singing about 'land of the free' when, I know that only applies to some Americans." Ervin said in the post that she was punished by Navy officials and that the "equipment I need to do my Naval job" was taken away.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blm; military; nationalanthem; navy; protest; usn
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To: AndyJackson

When I was in boot camp at GLNTC more than 50 yrs. ago we were told that by enlisting we had given up our 2nd, 4th and parts of our 1st amendment rights. There may have been more, but it was a long time ago.


101 posted on 09/22/2016 9:56:40 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: kevcol

Oh boo hoo. The baby hasn’t grown into adulthood yet. Her equipment was probably a baby bottle and pacifier.


102 posted on 09/22/2016 10:15:59 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: kevcol

Awwww just too darned bad you little fool


103 posted on 09/22/2016 10:32:05 PM PDT by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: kevcol

Someone needs to tell her she is in the US Navy, not a civilian.


104 posted on 09/23/2016 12:07:46 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: kevcol

Portrait of an imbecile and an utter *sswipe.

The only uniform she should be wearing is that of a toilet attendant.


105 posted on 09/23/2016 1:07:06 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: kevcol

WTF is up with BLACKS??? Get out of our military...I am tired of PAYING your Salary! GET OUT!


106 posted on 09/23/2016 2:34:25 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: NorthMountain

Undesirable Discharge


107 posted on 09/23/2016 2:45:50 AM PDT by mazda77 (The solution: Vote Trump)
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To: kevcol

Yeah, the Navy ain’t the NFL.


108 posted on 09/23/2016 2:55:46 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Rummyfan

She’s just one of millions of workfare recipients; without it their unemployment rate would be 90%+


109 posted on 09/23/2016 3:08:13 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Iron Munro

JFK was speaking to American-Americans, not the unassimilated trash. We’ve been literally feeding generations of these unproductive malcontents...


110 posted on 09/23/2016 3:12:01 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kevcol

ON YOUR FEET, MAGGOT!


111 posted on 09/23/2016 3:32:24 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Enterprise

I read somewhere the she is an IS, Intelligence Specialist. A rating that requires a high security clearance, which she lost. Therefore she cannot work in her rating. As such, she should be busted and sent to the fleet as a Boatswain’s Mate. Let her chip paint for a while.


112 posted on 09/23/2016 3:41:17 AM PDT by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
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To: AndyJackson

All you need to get through Navy boot camp is to be able to fog a mirror and walk.


113 posted on 09/23/2016 3:49:05 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: kevcol

1. Admits willfully not standing for the national anthem,

2. while in uniform.

That’s equivalent to violating a standing order. For a Petty Officer 2nd (E-5) to do something like that? Makes me wonder exactly WHAT she does in the USN? She clearly thinks the regs do not apply.


114 posted on 09/23/2016 4:22:17 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: kevcol

Dishonerab le discharge. Period. No benefits. Over and done.


115 posted on 09/23/2016 5:03:22 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: kevcol; 2ndDivisionVet

When in duty, in uniform she obeys the orders of the officers appointed over her and the US Code prescribes the treatment of the flag by members of the military.

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html#176

Throughout the US Code the word “should” is used. Should means “obligation or duty”. Therefore, any officers present will violate the law if they do not enforce on the military those obligations and duties.

Civilians have no controlling officers, so their violation of the US Code is a violation of obligation or duty, but there will be no repercussions.


116 posted on 09/23/2016 5:27:35 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: kevcol

Yeah, so?


117 posted on 09/23/2016 5:35:31 AM PDT by OKSooner (She was practiced at the art of deception, you could tell by her bloodstained hands.)
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To: kevcol

Good the USN.


118 posted on 09/23/2016 5:39:15 AM PDT by The Toad
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To: fredhead

BM might suit her. I wouldn’t rate her at first. I would send her out somewhere as nonrated, and let her “strike” for something. I would keep her away from personnel records, medical care, or guns. Hell, I wouldn’t trust her to adequately perform fire & security watches.


119 posted on 09/23/2016 7:32:20 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: AndyJackson
How did she get through boot camp?

Go back and look at her picture.

120 posted on 09/23/2016 11:00:20 AM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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