Bean Counters and Bureaucrats (investigators) should never be pilots.
I’ve seen what happens when companies have those types running them. True leaders and pilots must react too quick for analysis. Sully did. The passengers all lived.
Interesting ...I plan to see it Tuesday with friends.
In another note...how does something get released with no editing out the many “typo” mistakes? Is this personal, not journalist released? Then sorry to criticize!
I thought the movie well written and acted. Sully was a admirable hero. I was also happy to see the Co Pilot lauded in the movie and those that responded rapidly to the accident.
surely a tag is unnecessary
It’s always very easy to second guess the actions of others. The best any of us can do in such a situation with especially a short time frame is pick an option, focus and execute. It worked for this Captain. Later critiques and with lessons learned exercise following such an experience is to be expected. I consider him a professional and a hero.
I learned that Clint is 86 and apparently he accomplished this project at around 85
Clint is my Hero...... at 74 Clint is challenging me to keep on keeping on and producing within my ability.
Opening Dream Sequence. The sign of a lazy writer.
In 1978 my groundschool book said: “Power off emergency on takeoff? DON’T turn back. Hit the softest cheapest thing you can find”. You only turn back when you can do a more or less normal power off landing.
I have just seen the trailer on TV. I didn’t know Sully’s actions were second-guessed by his management. Interesting.
I won’t see it, it has Tom Hanks in it. He blabbed his mouth too many times about people who vote like me - so chuck him, I am not interested an anything he does.
I saw it earlier this week and thought it was ok. It seemed really short, but there wasn’t really a lot of material to work with. Not a lot to the story to tell.
Probably Tom Hanks shortest length movie in ages. He is an every man actor. Maybe average for him.
As far as Eastwood directed films, it isn’t his best. I enjoyed some of this other films more.
I saw it yesterday. I had reservations about how they could hold my interest for 1 hr 36 min for an event that was over in 5 minutes.
Also I had seen it happen on TV, tape and live!
How would they fill the rest of the time? With boring human interest crap? How did it make you FEEL?
But, my wife wanted to see it, so we went.
It was FANTASTIC! Eastwood is a genius! Tom Hanks was the PERFECT choice to play Sully.
Many things I didn’t know before. The copilot was flying the plane when they hit the birds, Sully took over after,
Sully, “BIRDS” thump, thump, thump de thump thump.
“My Airplane” says Sully, taking COMMAND!
Sully, “We’re gonna be in the Hudson”.
Sully, “I eyeballed it”. “Yeah, I eyeballed it”.
VERY well acted by EVERYONE. Very emotional, bring your tissues. Very REAL!
Sully is a real HERO.
A MUST see, you will not be disappointed.
This is a GREAT still from the movie. You can appreciate the authenticity and real emotions from this frozen moment by the intense look on the faces of the actors. If you didn’t know better you would think that there had been a camera in the cockpit of US Airways Flight 1549.
My wife and I own a couple small airplanes, half a dozen hang gliders, and live on an “airpark” which is 116 homes built around a small airport. Both of the last two fatal airplane crashes here were professional airline captains who had engine failure on takeoff in their personal general aviation airplanes and both tried to make a quick turns back to the airport.
Fortunately, neither of them had any passengers along with them and I am fairly confident that neither would have tried to make such a maneuver in their “work aircraft”. But they thought that they could take chances with their own airplanes and their own lives and beat the odds. Because yes, one of the first things people are taught in flight school is not to attempt to return to the airport if you experience engine failure on takeoff.
To slightly simplify things... the primary reason trying to return to the airport when having difficulty when taking off is so dangerous is that the airplane is already in a nose high attitude with an airspeed not much above stall speed. When the pilot makes a quick turn close to stall speed, G-force increases the stall speed, the wing starts to stall, the nose drops and the pilot doesn’t have enough altitude or speed to take corrective action before hitting the ground.
I actually witnessed a crash with a plane load full of skydivers when their hotshot pilot made a tight turn immediately after takeoff in a nose high attitude with full power. He stalled and went straight in from 500 feet and everyone onboard was killed instantly. Lawyers for the families of the skydivers tried to sue the engine manufacturer claiming that the engine lost power on takeoff, but the bent up prop and the testimony of witnesses such as myself indicated clearly that the engine was still developing full power on impact. So I have not only witnessed crashes I have been both interviewed by the authorities and testified in court about crashes.
Even though many of those we have come into contact with from the FAA and the NTSB over the years have been complete a**holes. And it is not in my nature to stick up for a bunch of federal bureaucrats, the witch hunt portrayed in the movie is fiction to add drama to a movie that is essentially about a routine non-lethal accident investigation.
I have subscribed to many aviation magazines and aviation safety journals over the years. In addition we have neighbors on both sides who work for the FAA and enjoy discussing high profile situations with us. There was nothing more than the expected response from the authorities whose job it is to investigate this type of incident. Of course they are going to have to rule out pilot error which necessitates asking a few probing questions.
But this “Hollywoodizing” of the story is a good illustration of why one shouldn’t trust any movie made by Hollywood to be historically accurate, even one made by a right wing leaning director/producer. It is all the same game, get people excited about something. Who is going to watch a movie essentially about the bureaucratic investigation process of a nonlethal accident? But until it is proven that the birds were trained by Isis to sacrifice themselves to go to birdy heaven there were no actual villains in this case. It is kind of a neat story about everyone doing their jobs correctly, but without vilifying federal officials what entertainment value would it have?
... Sully as an introspective pilot who couldn’t help relieving those 208 seconds.
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“Relieving”? I suspect the writer means “reliving”.
Proofreading really is a good practice.
My wife and I saw the movie last night. We agreed it was the best movie we’ve seen in a very long time. So well done. Grips you from the beginning. Leaves you feeling inspired by Sully and all of the remarkable people directly involved. Co-pilot, flight attendants, ATC, ferry captains, NYPD rescue, et al.
“climatically?” Didn’t know Clint was one of the AGW crowd.../s
Too bad Clint — a pretty solid conservative — tapped Hanks — F**KING LIB — to play that role. I watched my last Tom Hanks film years ago!
Did they ever figure out which Passenger opened the rear door of the Airplane which caused the flooding if the Fuselage while People were evacuating?