Posted on 09/07/2016 7:25:05 PM PDT by AJFavish
At the military issues forum tonight Hillary lied again when she said that material is not classified unless it is marked as such. FBI Director Comey and other security experts say the opposite.
http://time.com/4483355/commander-chief-forum-clinton-trump-intrepid/
Hillary said:
But the real question is the handling of classified material, which is I think what the implication of your question was. And for all the viewers watching you tonight, I have a lot of experience dealing with classified material, starting when I was on the Senate Armed Services Committee going into the four years as secretary of state. Classified material has a header which says “top secret,” “secret,” “confidential.” Nothing — and I will repeat this, and this is verified in the report by the Department of Justice — none of the e-mails sent or received by me had such a header.
. . .
CLINTON: Well, I appreciate your concern and also your experience. But let me try to make the distinctions that I think are important for me to answer your question.
First, as I said to Matt, you know and I know classified material is designated. It is marked. There is a header so that there is no dispute at all that what is being communicated to or from someone who has that access is marked classified.
And what we have here is the use of an unclassified system by hundreds of people in our government to send information that was not marked, there were no headers, there was no statement, top secret, secret, or confidential.
I communicated about classified material on a wholly separate system. I took it very seriously. When I traveled, I went into one of those little tents that I’m sure you’ve seen around the world because we didn’t want there to be any potential for someone to have embedded a camera to try to see whatever it is that I was seeing that was designated, marked, and headed as classified.
Excerpt:
Still, Comey said Clinton should have known better: “There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation.” He noted that “even if information is not marked ‘classified’ in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.”
On July 8, Clinton’s language over emails changed again: “I certainly did not believe that I received or sent any material that was classified, and, indeed, any of the documents that have been referred to, I think were not marked, or were marked inaccurately, as has now been clarified.”
Strictly speaking, classification markings do not render information classified, and the absence of classification markings do not render it unclassified, said Steven Aftergood, director of the government secrecy project at the Federation of American Scientists. In fact, a person can share classified information at a cocktail party.
“If there is no banner or header at the top of a classified email indicating that it is classified, then it is improperly marked. But the lack of such a banner does not in itself render the email unclassified. There might still be classified information in it,” Aftergood said. “The lack of a banner does, however, explain how a recipient might easily consider it unclassified. Isolated portion markings such as ‘(C)’ might easily be overlooked or dismissed as errors, especially if their content seems innocuous.”
hillary medical aide photos!!!
http://www.patdollard.com/photo-emerges-of-hillarys-handler-with-bill-during-2013-hospital-visit/
Yes, Comey said it was illegal, and that no one else better try it or they would be prosecuted, but he didn’t know any prosecutors who would prosecute Hillary Clinton.
According to the FBI, Hillary lied twice in one breathe. First,she did send and receive emails with the header intact that signified confidential and top secret messages.
Second, she lied when she said the reports confirmed what she maintained, that she never sent emails marked confidential.
That is why she told the FBI she could not remember about 40 different times.
As SOS, shouldn't she absolutely assume every email or communication she had would be classified?
Did she NEVER have correspondence with the POTUS?
Is she saying that Obama is even stupider than she is?
I am afraid the average person simply can’t understand the severity of this or they just don’t care.
This is ridiculous. It is more severe by a factor of 100 or 1000 from offenses made by other government employees who were prosecuted and received jail time, were fired, and lost their retirement. The fact that she destroyed government records by smashing phones with a hammer clearly shows intent.
There were numerous laws violated here and in my humble opinion the matter should have been referred to a Grand Jury and an independent prosecutor. It is too bad the office of “independent prosecutor” was sullied over the Scooter Libby affair, but if the DOJ believed there was probable cause on Scooter Libby there is simply NO WAY they should not find probable cause with what Hillary did. The allegations against Libby were not 100th as egregious as this scandal. Furthermore, it is standard practice for a federal investigation to explore all potential charges. Despite what Comey stated - it is clear they did not do that with her. He very carefully discussed one statute among several that appear to have been violated.
P.S. - she clearly lied to congress and the FBI on multiple occasions. Martha Stewart was jailed for lying to the FBI once about one material fact.
This email scandal over classified information does not include the obvious appearance of pay to play that occurred during her tenure at the State Department. We cannot sustain a blatant admission in our nation that someone is too big to jail and they are above the law for political expediency. That is what is happening right now and the mainstream media can’t be bothered with “old news”.
I don’t know what Assange is going to release, but anyone who thinks it will change the equation is simply not paying attention. There is more than enough out there already. One thing that goes without saying in all of this - it is quite likely that Obama and his staff exchanged emails with her and that would have also violated the law by sending classified email to a non-government secured server. How much that factored into Comey’s inexplicable statement is something we will likely never know.
She’s also counting on them not knowing that, as number three, in the line of succession, pretty much all of her work product could be construed as classified on that fact alone.
And who the fsck, sends, or receives classified email to/from an email account with .COM on the end of it!?
Nobody, to my knowledge, has ever asked that question.
I agree. It is ridiculous. The media and Obuttmuncher’s gubmint are twisting themselves into pretzels to make this not look like probably the worst security breech in US history, which it probably is.
See post 25. Not all emails are classified, but it would be a safe assumption as Sec of State that you would receive far more classified emails than the average government employee or even cabinet member.
Her actions also violated the Federal Record Keeping Act that MANDATES that government correspondence be retained as government records. Her idea that she would use a private server and this would not apply to her is absurd for anyone not named Clinton. Any communication in the employ of the government for official business is subject to the record keeping requirements. Comey completely ignored this. He also ignored the misdemeanor statute for violating it (a lesser charge) that ironically states that any person convicted of it may not hold another security clearance (i.e. - she would be ineligible to hold any office).
Too big to fail and too big to jail. Welcome to 1984 comrades.
Yes. Her lunch times any yoga lesson appointments were likely classified.
Setting up plausible deniability in advance is evidence of pre-meditation.
Not exactly work product.
But then again she didn’t actually work. At least not for the country.
AS SOS she didn't think any emails she would be receiving and sending would be classified ???????????
That is the MAIN TOPIC that should be emphasized
Hillary went to see her OB/GYN.
After an inspection the doctor says,
“Mrs. Clinton, you’re as clean as a whistle.
I mean, you’re immaculate!
How do you keep so hygienic?”
She replied, “I have a woman in twice a week!”
angrily striking her hand with a closed fist.
Mainly she had the classified printed out and she read hard copy. I doubt she ever logged into a classified system, that is obviously beneath her.
She now knows all about “headers” and sh*t. They must have had a hell of a time shoving all of that down her throat and hoping that she could “remember” and “recall” it long enough to talk about it with the “media”.
Not really. The part she explained was made simple enough that 17-year olds walking in off the street can understand and be held accountable. She was simply lying previously - and deceiving here by implying there is a nebulous ‘they’ that marks things as classified for her as a naive bystander, when it was part of her duties.
Did you ever correspond with the SOS?
Of course.
Did make sure to denote that your correspondence needed to be MARKED classified, as Hillary has asserted?
Now we will have Obama on record saying:
A. Of course those emails were classified. The SOS had to know that.
Or, B. I was so reckless myself that I had no idea I was sending classified material to the SOS.
These questions MUST be asked by the press.
Hillary has made Obama answerable.
No but I would guess the SoS whereabouts are not for open distribution but that is just a guess.
Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings.
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