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The Democrats Will Never Confiscate Your Guns. Instead, You’ll Hand them Over.(BS Alert)
http://www.alloutdoor.com ^ | 8/31/16 | billj

Posted on 09/06/2016 8:27:50 AM PDT by Jed Eckert

I see and hear a lot of talk about how a national gun registration and/or confiscation would be the trigger that would spark a second American Revolution, as patriots rise up to resist the jackbooted thugs who are going door-to-door taking away people’s arms.

I have bad news for everyone who’s waiting for national registration or a mass confiscation so they can get their armed rebellion on: a national database of gun owners already exists, and a national confiscation effort will never happen. Ever. Instead, you’ll hand over your firearms peacefully. All of them, even the ones you paid cash for to some random guy on Armslist in the dead of night.

Here’s a look at how it will play out in our not-too-distant future.

The NSA Knows Who You Are and What You Have

Second Amendment supporters have been so focused on this one little corner of the Bill of Rights that they’ve let the Fourth Amendment, which is supposed to protect citizens against unreasonable search and seizure, turn into dead letter.

The surveillance state that got started under Clinton picked up steam under Bush II, and Obama has expanded it even further. The NSA is tracking everyone, all the time, and they’re hooked into Facebook, Google, Amazon, and every other piece of web-based software that you’ve been using to shop for accessories for that AR you paid cash for (which your wife doesn’t even know you have).

If you don’t believe me, go read this article about just how much detailed info one private company, Facebook, has on you, including your web surfing, shopping, and even your driving and walking habits. Now think about the fact that the NSA is even less constrained by the law (and has way more resources) than Facebook and has access not only to Facebook’s detailed profile of you but to profiles created by many other sources, from your credit card company to your health insurance provider.

Oh sure, you may have gotten your hands on a few guns that would be impossible to trace, even by the NSA. Maybe you inherited a long gun from your grandpa, or maybe you met a guy in a gun show parking lot and paid cash and then never Googled anything related to that gun. So here’s a question for you: how many people like you exist, and how many of those type guns are suitable for urban combat against AR-15s with state-of-the-art optics? I know which of my guns are probably totally “in the black,” and I can’t imagine trying to mount an insurgency with any or all of them.

The fact is, most guys who have the kind of hardware suitable for a Civil War 2.0 have been shopping on Gunbroker or Armslist, and/or have filled out FFL paperwork like law-abiding citizens. I seriously doubt there’s enough firepower totally hidden from the NSA to sustain any kind of real rebellion.

So the registration ship has sailed. They know what you have and where to find you. Now, here’s how they’re going to get you to turn it over without a fight.

Hitting You Where It Hurts

When the government outlaws semi-automatic firearms, they won’t send cops or troops door-to-door to take them. No, first they’ll send out letters saying they know what you have, and that you have to turn it over by a given deadline or face a penalty.

It’ll be up to you to prove that you’re clean, and that you’ve handed over everything. They’ll have a list, and if they think you’re still holding, they’ll hit you with asset freezes.

Imagine not being able to get any money out of your bank account or from your credit cards, because your assets are frozen. The federal and state governments already do this if you owe back taxes–a simple letter to your bank, and all of your cards stop working. (Here’s an account from one of our editors of how this actually happened to him.) The bank doesn’t care about you, and they don’t have the interest or resources to find out if the government’s claim against you is bogus. No, they’ll just freeze your assets until you get things sorted with the government and the government tells them to unfreeze it all.

The other thing they’ll do is take your children.

Do you think Child Protective Services is going to let your children live in a house with potentially dangerous firearms? No way. Your kids will get picked up at school and taken into custody, and a social worker will show up at your door with the cops. Only when a thorough search has been conducted and the authorities are completely satisfied that your property is 100% gun-free will they let you see your little ones again. After all, we have to protect the children.

You’re not going to shoot at those cops, either, because then your kids will just end up in the foster system as wards of the state.

Not Nearly Enough for a Revolution

Oh, I’m sure there are folks reading this who are so off-grid that none of the above can touch them. Their guns are totally invisible to the NSA, their assets are all in the form of cash and physically held precious metals, and their kids are home-schooled on a well-guarded ranch.

But is that blessed group big enough to overthrow a determined US government? No, it ain’t.

The measures outlined above–a de facto gun registration database courtesy of the NSA and its private-sector allies, asset freezes for non-compliance, and the threat of CPS visits that hold your children hostage–will be sufficient to take well over 90% of the lawfully held guns out of civilian hands, all without firing a single shot.

The bitter truth is this:there will be no confiscation shock troops for you and your buddies to shoot back at, and we will discover too late that the rights-defenders’ fantasy–of one, crystal-clear moment when it’s time for everyone to rise up as one and take it all back–has been the establishment’s biggest ally and freedom’s deadliest enemy.

Why do you think they’ve let you have guns for this long? Because those guns have given you a false sense of security and kept you from doing something truly dangerous, like mass-organizing to pull all your money out of the big banks and to vote out the incumbents.

So if you’ve sat idly by, fondling your firearms and watching the surveillance state expand while your paycheck shrinks, relying on your gun stash to bail you out when things hit bottom, then the joke’s on you. You’ve already lost the war, and when you hand over your weapons it’ll be the last (and mostly symbolic) step in a process of total subjugation that slipped up and swallowed you while you were distracted with building your gun collection.

You may hate me and everything I’ve said here, but deep down, you know I’m right.

Update: A number of commenters are misreading this article. The headline doesn’t say I’ll hand them them over — it says you will. And yeah, I’m trolling you a bit with the tone of this piece by saying what you “will” and “won’t” do, but it’s because I’m trying to slap you awake. The main point that’s being made is this: if you’re waiting for a door-to-door confiscation, or even a national gun registry, then you’ll be waiting forever. Folks who like to talk about a causus belli will need get more creative in coming up with a “bright line”, because the ones so many of you are waiting for won’t ever appear. If this article has spurred you to think more clearly about what the end of liberty might actually look like, and about what you’ll do under scenarios other than the classic door-to-door confiscation scenario, then it has done its job.


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81 posted on 09/06/2016 3:00:22 PM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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To: wbarmy

Two snipers practically shut down DC. What could 10,000 do?


82 posted on 09/06/2016 3:17:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Only idiot liberals believe that disarming the sheep makes them safe from the wolves.)
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To: Jed Eckert

They won’t confiscate them. It’s not about that. If it was they would prosecute criminals caught with guns as a federal felony. It’s about criminalizing gun owners. Then they can selectively prosecute any gun owners at will.


83 posted on 09/06/2016 3:18:44 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: Jed Eckert; All

Where was this all-knowing NSA when Russia informed our government that they may want to keep an eye on the Boston Bombers?


84 posted on 09/06/2016 3:29:32 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Jed Eckert

Oh boy.

Look, it is probably wise to assume the NSA knows about MOST guns being sold or traded and yes, I can see them freezing assets like tax returns and what not.

But going after kids? Who in hades would go along with that? LE? Forget about, that’s not a hill worth dying on and besides most cops got kids and guns of their own and wouldn’t go along with any of this.

There would be more revolutionary patriots that JBTs so its not an issue.

Besides, if you haven’t got your gun(s) by now, WTF were you waiting on?

Now eliminating ammunition and spare parts, that it very problematic.


85 posted on 09/06/2016 5:23:36 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Hillary- Time To Change the Bag...)
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To: Leep
Freezing someone’s assets won’t subdue them ..quite the opposite.
I suspect the Economy will not be exactly booming at the time,either.
86 posted on 09/06/2016 6:09:13 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (The Fall of 2016 is going to be interesting...)
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To: M Kehoe

Russians became afraid of leaving their camps except in large numbers in Afghanistan. That is the kind of fear that the American Patriot will have to instill in the oppressors...


87 posted on 09/06/2016 6:21:32 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (The Fall of 2016 is going to be interesting...)
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To: Jed Eckert

Mad Dog Mean,,,

Arf,Arf,ARF!


88 posted on 09/06/2016 7:51:20 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum

@Frederick303 - Plenty of good solid stuff in your post, thank you for the honest analysis and discussion.

@JimRed - One of the grimmest discussions about a possible Civil War 2 involved an older fellow telling me that if the liberals really got programs for kids to spy/snitch for them in ernest, I might have to make peace with God about shooting a child because if they tattled on me or my fellow rebels we were just as screwed as if a CIA spy had seen us. Utterly spine-chilling to think about lining up a 12 year old in my sights or walking by them on the playground with a K-BAR in hand. But that already happened in Germany to a massive degree and the Communist nations to varying lesser degrees so it’s not an unthinkable scenario by any means.

@Aut Pax Aut Bellum - It doesn’t necessarily have to be the soldiers either. If every liberal-thinking politician and judge was afraid to set foot out of a bunker if they voted the wrong way, the battle would be half over right there.


89 posted on 09/06/2016 8:00:30 PM PDT by Laser_Ray
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To: Jed Eckert

There’s always DIY rail guns.


90 posted on 09/06/2016 8:33:21 PM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: Jed Eckert
pull all your money out of the big banks

Author outs himself as a kook.

91 posted on 09/06/2016 10:26:52 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery, Never Schumer, Never Pelosi)
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To: JD_UTDallas

This will not be a civil war so much as a revolution of restoration, to restore constitutional behavior to government. While your liberal neighbor might rat you out to the regime, he is not likely to take up arms and seek you out. Unless, that is, you attack his loved ones.


92 posted on 09/07/2016 6:29:52 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: JimRed

In German people who turned in others were fair game for retribution by the remaining citizens. Should liberals start turning in patriots and the time for armed conflict has come, not a single member of that household would be left alive as an example to the rest this is what happens when you side with the regime. This is common in all wars of a civil nature. regardless of if it is revolutionary or restoration of a sitting gov’t, by definition wars between former citizens or country men are civil wars. civil wars devolve rapidly to total warfare and genocide that is the nature of civil war. Sherman practiced total war in our last domestic conflict burning, pillaging and killing indiscriminately it has happened here and will happen again if the liberals push for civil conflict. Once we have one side using the force govt to put the other on deadly ground, those who use those methods will be sought out and eliminated down to the last person no quarter will be given as men who have lost everything have no morals or compunction left about what must be done to eliminate the enemy who’s caused them to be in a no win situation. make no mistake if the govt and liberals move on assets, children and livelihoods those affected people will have no problem genociding those who have caused that situation I have seen it first hand in the Balkans in the 1990s normal men not hardened soldiers pushing children of there enemies into mass graves once the thin mask of civility comes off humans are murderous killing machines.


93 posted on 09/07/2016 8:02:53 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: Impy

why a kook? i do bank, i do not keep money there.


94 posted on 09/07/2016 8:03:10 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: PROCON

Yeah. Bullet end first.


95 posted on 09/07/2016 8:52:47 AM PDT by ZULU (Donald Trump is the biggest threat to the New World Order since Barry Goldwater)
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To: Blue Jays

WOLVERINES!
96 posted on 09/07/2016 3:05:23 PM PDT by Blue Jays
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To: RoadGumby

Safer in the mattress?


97 posted on 09/07/2016 3:19:51 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery, Never Schumer, Never Pelosi)
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To: Impy

Safer in a hidden, bolted down, fireproof safe. Not subject to closings or bail-ins.


98 posted on 09/08/2016 12:46:28 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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