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Regarding the last sentence, I don't think so. 1000s of PCs, maybe more, owned by companies like UPS and Ford are still running Win 7. And, from what I read, there's no big push to go to Win 10, mostly because Win 10 doesn't offer much of anything new for these users.

Win 10 offer nothing new and usable for me so I'm planning to staying with Win 7 as long as possible. All updates turned off.

1 posted on 09/02/2016 1:35:58 PM PDT by upchuck
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2 posted on 09/02/2016 1:36:34 PM PDT by upchuck (2 Timothy 3:13: But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.)
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I dont have to have Microsoft. I dont have to have apple either.


3 posted on 09/02/2016 1:37:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Hmm ... AMD? Big marketing opportunity. Also, Can’t VMWARE tell Windows 7 it’s an Intel Skylake or earlier?


4 posted on 09/02/2016 1:42:05 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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"Win 10 offers nothing new and usable for me so I'm planning on staying with Win 7 as long as possible. All updates are turned off. "

Me too.

Thanks for the update.

5 posted on 09/02/2016 1:42:24 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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This is restrictive trade practice, which is illegal. It is time for the Feds to give Microsoft the 'ole IBM/AT&T treatment.

I use Linux now, and will never go back.

7 posted on 09/02/2016 1:43:36 PM PDT by GingisK
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Win10 freezes up erratically.... can interrrupt seriously-important work

we will stick with Win7, as troublesome as it can be at times it is still far more reliable than Win10


9 posted on 09/02/2016 1:50:25 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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XP FOREVER!......................


11 posted on 09/02/2016 1:59:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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One of the biggest challenges to supporting Windows is the plethora of hardware it is compatible with. I'm glad because this solves some bloatware challenges.
15 posted on 09/02/2016 2:16:25 PM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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Win 10 is truly horrible. I can't find anything and the border less windows are irritating. What a annoying company to do something like this.
17 posted on 09/02/2016 2:30:43 PM PDT by Vision (Best Radio Station Ever: www.MartiniInTheMorning.com)
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So Microsoft is actively reducing their customer base?


20 posted on 09/02/2016 2:44:51 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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"The goal appears to be to move forward with new features, even if it means leaving some users behind.

This has been Apple's modus operandus since the first Mac. Ask all those Apple II owners who expected an Apple II compatible upgrade path.

".....and nothing is precluding Apple from buying the chips for Macs, either.

I thought current Mac machines already ran on Intel hardware.

21 posted on 09/02/2016 2:48:40 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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24 posted on 09/02/2016 2:56:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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There is no good reason to break backward compatibility at the hardware level. I checked the Microsoft link in the article and found nothing in the Microsoft announcement (https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/01/15/windows-10-embracing-silicon-innovation/#9hvKDeXAqGuI93h2.97) that says that that Win 7/8 won’t install on the new chips.

What Terry Myerson is claiming is that Microsoft won’t “support” Windows 7/8 on the newer chips, whatever that means.

Microsoft has already dropped Windows 7 support down to extended support (security fixes only). There is no reason to expect that Win 7 won’t run fine on the new chips, just don’t expect the new chip features to be used. Intel and AMD will publish .INF drivers to recognize the new CPUs (these ‘drivers’ do little more than report the chip name and version in Device Manager and other places).

Myerson is creating unnecessary FUD by being deliberating being vague about what ‘support’ means.

As a practical matter there is no way that Microsoft is going to break hardware compatibility like that, certainly not for old VMs if nothing else. Far too much legacy stuff depends on it.

This FUD announcement by Myerson is stupid. It has to be royally pissing off Intel and AMD because it will just kill a huge segment of the market for Intel/AMD’s new chips (basically the entire legacy market), which neither Intel nor AMD would ever willingly do.


25 posted on 09/02/2016 2:58:37 PM PDT by Gideon7
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I’ve built my own PCs since they first came out.

I’ve helped people with PC and Windows problems professionally and privately for decades.

I’m done.

My friends and associates who still run Windows have constant problems and issues. Those who don’t, don’t.

I can hardly believe I’m mostly an Apple and Mac user these days, but it sure is nice to run on stuff that just works. I haven’t had that experience since exploring the limits of OS/2.


26 posted on 09/02/2016 2:59:12 PM PDT by EasySt (Time to build that gulch..)
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Windows 10 is the only Microsoft Windows OS to support these chips entire feature set. As I understand it, linux, BSD and Apple can still support these new chips.


27 posted on 09/02/2016 3:02:04 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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This is an opportunity for IBM/GlobalFoundries.


31 posted on 09/02/2016 3:44:18 PM PDT by Ray76 (Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!)
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I don’t see a problem with what windows is doing here. If they were writing software that prevented current OS installs from continuing to function that would be an issue (though I am surprised they have not done that). As for companies that write software to run on only one version of an OS, I have little sympathy for now. At this point any software company should realize that writing software to run on only one version of an OS is stupid. It departments should realize that technology always changes and should really stop this nonsense of trying to hold it back.


34 posted on 09/02/2016 3:54:07 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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Microsoft is determined to not only to destroy their own shrinking monopoly in the rapidly shrinking PC market, but to take down all of its partners with it.

Nonetheless, I don’t see what the big deal is. 99.999999999% of PC usage requires minimal CPU power anyway, and Intel still makes almost every CPU chip family since and including the Pentium.


35 posted on 09/02/2016 4:03:51 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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I finally caved and moved from Win 7 to 10, mostly because MS is abandoning security and other updates for Win 7. That means that the third-world hackers, where they still use Win 7, will be unchallenged.

It works fine now that I shut down all the new memory- and CPU-eating programs. There’s a surprising number of them, and many of them are to keep track of my usage, so that’s another reason to shut them down.


37 posted on 09/02/2016 4:46:22 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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Another luddite thread, ZZZZZzzzzz. Commodore 64 forever!!


40 posted on 09/02/2016 7:34:16 PM PDT by MCH
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