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Microsoft made 'em do it: The latest Kaby Lake, Zen chips will support only Windows 10
PC World ^ | Aug 30, 2016 | Mark Hachman

Posted on 09/02/2016 1:35:58 PM PDT by upchuck

Microsoft is slamming the door on PC builders and upgraders who might have hoped to use the new Intel Kaby Lake or AMD Zen chips for Windows 7 or Windows 8 PCs. Sorry: Both chips are officially supported only by Microsoft’s Windows 10.

Microsoft's mandate is discreet rather than secret. In January, the company tried to shorten its support lifecycle for Intel Skylake PCs running Windows 7 and 8, a policy the company subsequently abandoned after much outcry. But Microsoft’s statements have also consistently included a critical caveat: The latest generations of silicon—specifically Intel’s Kaby Lake chip, Qualcomm’s 8996, and AMD’s Bristol Ridge silicon—will all require Windows 10.

“As new silicon generations are introduced, they will require the latest Windows platform at that time for support,” a Microsoft spokeswoman replied, when asked to confirm that that position was still in place. The goal appears to be to move forward with new features, even if it means leaving some users behind. “This enables us to focus on deep integration between Windows and the silicon, while maintaining maximum reliability and compatibility with previous generations of platform and silicon.”

Why this matters: Microsoft's push forward, however rational from a technology standpoint, robs PC enthusiasts of their choice of operating systems—a freedom this particular sector of the community has loudly defended in the past. This could have broader implications for the PC market, too: It could be the deciding factor that finally brings about the abandonment of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. (Linux is an option, too, and nothing is precluding Apple from buying the chips for Macs, either.)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows10; windows7; windowspinglist
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Regarding the last sentence, I don't think so. 1000s of PCs, maybe more, owned by companies like UPS and Ford are still running Win 7. And, from what I read, there's no big push to go to Win 10, mostly because Win 10 doesn't offer much of anything new for these users.

Win 10 offer nothing new and usable for me so I'm planning to staying with Win 7 as long as possible. All updates turned off.

1 posted on 09/02/2016 1:35:58 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: dayglored; Swordmaker

Ping.


2 posted on 09/02/2016 1:36:34 PM PDT by upchuck (2 Timothy 3:13: But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.)
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To: upchuck

I dont have to have Microsoft. I dont have to have apple either.


3 posted on 09/02/2016 1:37:58 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: upchuck

Hmm ... AMD? Big marketing opportunity. Also, Can’t VMWARE tell Windows 7 it’s an Intel Skylake or earlier?


4 posted on 09/02/2016 1:42:05 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: upchuck
"Win 10 offers nothing new and usable for me so I'm planning on staying with Win 7 as long as possible. All updates are turned off. "

Me too.

Thanks for the update.

5 posted on 09/02/2016 1:42:24 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: Dr. Sivana

AMD caved too, sheesh.


6 posted on 09/02/2016 1:42:38 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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This is restrictive trade practice, which is illegal. It is time for the Feds to give Microsoft the 'ole IBM/AT&T treatment.

I use Linux now, and will never go back.

7 posted on 09/02/2016 1:43:36 PM PDT by GingisK
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This is restrictive trade practice, which is illegal.

Why is illegal? If MS does not want to modify their software to accommodate the new chips why should they be compelled to do so?

8 posted on 09/02/2016 1:49:55 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: upchuck

Win10 freezes up erratically.... can interrrupt seriously-important work

we will stick with Win7, as troublesome as it can be at times it is still far more reliable than Win10


9 posted on 09/02/2016 1:50:25 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: blam

“Win 10 offers nothing new and usable for me so I’m planning on staying with Win 7 as long as possible. All updates are turned off. “

Me too.

Thanks for the update.


Me three...

And when my PC dies I will move to Mac like my wife already has for her business with no issues.


10 posted on 09/02/2016 1:50:58 PM PDT by IVAXMAN
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To: upchuck

XP FOREVER!......................


11 posted on 09/02/2016 1:59:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: Pontiac
This is restrictive trade practice, which is illegal.

Why is illegal? If MS does not want to modify their software to accommodate the new chips why should they be compelled to do so?

Because MS seems not to be changing any of their stuff. It's about making others conform to MS and it's business plan.

It's about denying 3rd parties the option of supporting older versions of Windows and forcing people into Win X. I believe this is also called forced obsolescence. That can be a problem in several ways, such as anti-trust or unfair trade practices.

I don't know if there any violations here or not but it should be looked into at least.

Not a lawyer, don't play one on TV, and I wash my hands after dealing with them.

12 posted on 09/02/2016 2:03:57 PM PDT by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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I was once an XP forever person. But with Win 10 coming out, I decided to upgrade to MSFT’s last decent (IMHO) OS and made the leap to Win 7 this past spring.

It’s not that much different from XP and I’m using Classic Shell to keep some of my XP GUI favs around.


13 posted on 09/02/2016 2:06:58 PM PDT by upchuck (2 Timothy 3:13: But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.)
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To: blam

You’re welcome.


14 posted on 09/02/2016 2:08:31 PM PDT by upchuck (2 Timothy 3:13: But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.)
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One of the biggest challenges to supporting Windows is the plethora of hardware it is compatible with. I'm glad because this solves some bloatware challenges.
15 posted on 09/02/2016 2:16:25 PM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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That can be a problem in several ways, such as anti-trust or unfair trade practices.

I am not in favor of either of those kinds of laws.

If someone wants to not sell to someone else I don’t see that government should force them to do so.

If MS wants to put contractual restrictions on the use of their products I see no reason that they should not be permitted to do so.

I am not a fan of MS and I fully intend to never buy another of their products. I don’t like that their Windows 10 is spyware. I like others on this thread have turned off updates on the Windows 7 and 8 machines I have.

I originally had intended to buy Apple when I got the Windows 8 box but my wife did not want to learn Apple but now she hates Windows 8 so that is the end of Windows in my home.

Maybe I will try Linux next.

16 posted on 09/02/2016 2:27:30 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Win 10 is truly horrible. I can't find anything and the border less windows are irritating. What a annoying company to do something like this.
17 posted on 09/02/2016 2:30:43 PM PDT by Vision (Best Radio Station Ever: www.MartiniInTheMorning.com)
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To: upchuck

I use 7 at work........Have never had a problem with XP..............


18 posted on 09/02/2016 2:32:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: Red Badger

XP is still on my PC.


19 posted on 09/02/2016 2:43:24 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: upchuck

So Microsoft is actively reducing their customer base?


20 posted on 09/02/2016 2:44:51 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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