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Poll: Clinton up 16 over Trump in Virginia
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Posted on 08/23/2016 11:40:04 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27
One bright spot: " Weighting was done to match the demographic groups' representation in the 2012 Virginia exit poll. "

That's way too favorable to the Dems.

But Va is a tough nut for a Republican. NOVA is a tyrant.

http://www.roanoke.edu/about/news/rc_poll_aug_2016_politics

21 posted on 08/23/2016 11:50:33 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Is he running ads there? Or letting her control the narrative?


22 posted on 08/23/2016 11:50:43 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Remember the Court)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Obama carried Virginia in 2012 by 51-47% over Romney , with 2% going to various others.

If it was a 4 point race in 2012, is Hillary really that far ahead this time in Virginia?

And this contradicts other national polls.

Hard to believe this is real.


23 posted on 08/23/2016 11:50:47 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: WilliamCooper1

Except it isn’t 2012.

And no election is a rerun of the last one.


24 posted on 08/23/2016 11:51:03 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: txrefugee

I think VA and CO will be very close. The potheads in CO and the gubment employees in VA will make it so.

However, two recent elections tell us the VA polls are next to useless (actually, three, but only two are statewide):

1) Eric Cantor was up big. I don’t know how much, but as I recall it was double-digits.

2) Gillespie was supposedly not even competitive, yet made it a close race. Final RCP average was just under 10, Warner won by under 1, so error factor of NINE.

3) RCP likelwise had McAuliffe ahead by more than 6, but the final margin of victory was 2.5 and error factor of THREE.POINT FIVE.

So, regardless of what this poll says, it’s wrong. It may be off by 9, it may be off by 3.5, but it’s seriously wrong. Now, is Trump behind? I think by 1-2 points. There were two pre-DNC convention polls showing him up 5 and tied, but both of those were relative “nobody” polls.

Once you get the D/R splits fixed and the F/M splits fixed, this is a very close race and winnable for Trump, especially if he has a lot of crossovers.


25 posted on 08/23/2016 11:51:36 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: NOVACPA

No internals. Liberal college BS.


26 posted on 08/23/2016 11:51:54 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

No.

Hillary is not going to do better than Obama in VA.

If she wins there, it will be within single digits.

This poll is complete garbage.


27 posted on 08/23/2016 11:52:19 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Yeah, right!

And Peewee Herman defeated Mike Tyson TWICE for the heavyweight boxing title.

28 posted on 08/23/2016 11:53:08 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: LS

They oversample Democrats big time and there are no internals. Color me doubtful.


29 posted on 08/23/2016 11:53:42 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: DarthVader

Exactly.

Just like CBS will not disclose party ID on many of its polls.

They don’t want you to know how its been skewed.


30 posted on 08/23/2016 11:54:22 AM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: cincinnati65

If this is reality, the country as we knew it, is over.

Not long ago 72% said the country was on the wrong track. Go figure.


31 posted on 08/23/2016 11:54:44 AM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I remember how I poopooed the 2012 presidential polls, not believing that the electoral could be so stupid as to re-elect Bath House. I was wrong.

Therefore, I don’t dismiss these polls, out of hand.


32 posted on 08/23/2016 11:55:19 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: DarthVader

That being said, I wish my state of Virginia would go ahead and give Fairfax, Falls Church, Arlington and Alexandria to DC or Maryland.


33 posted on 08/23/2016 11:55:56 AM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Feces polls again.


34 posted on 08/23/2016 11:55:59 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: NOVACPA

I could conduct a poll of oversampled Republicans and show Trump leading by 25% and it would still be erroneous.


35 posted on 08/23/2016 11:56:29 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: NOVACPA

I agree they are a pox on the Commonwealth.


36 posted on 08/23/2016 11:57:23 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

According to the cross-tabs Richmond and Northern Virginia are leaning Clinton.


37 posted on 08/23/2016 11:57:38 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: DarthVader

“72. And would you describe your political party affiliation as Democrat, Republican,
Independent, some other party or no affiliation?
Democrat 39%
Republican 32%
Independent 21%
Other 8%
Refused 0%

Other is probably communists lol


38 posted on 08/23/2016 11:59:12 AM PDT by Voluntaryist
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To: goldstategop

Roanoke College tells us a lot. I say the poll is skewed.


39 posted on 08/23/2016 11:59:23 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: bkopto

Mitt never lead the 2012 polls. We know the outcome.

Hillary isn’t leading in any legitimate poll by more than 50%.

It seems like she is settling within the 41-45% range and hasn’t expanded beyond her base.

Nobody is asking why she can’t put Trump away with all the favorable press and establishment backing on her side.

Polls like this show the opposite of what they’re trying to prove.


40 posted on 08/23/2016 12:00:05 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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