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Bad move there sir. Don't know if the gentleman had a ccw or not or if he had been to a course in Florida. When I took the class in FL they made a point of trying to make us understand that under FL law, if the perp is moving away, you had better no shoot because you WILL become the bad guy. I understood perfecly. If it ain't a threat, best not shoot. Sad situation.
1 posted on 08/23/2016 9:24:46 AM PDT by rktman
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That is correct. The elderly man appears to have made a bad move.


2 posted on 08/23/2016 9:26:40 AM PDT by Jim W N
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I was taught by a retired cop that if you shoot someone on your lawn or doorstep be sure to drag the body into the house.


3 posted on 08/23/2016 9:29:14 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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He turned and he appeared to have something in his hand would have been my defense


6 posted on 08/23/2016 9:31:55 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Remember the Court)
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In a SANE world this old man would be a hero for preventing another burglary and possible attack on other neighbors. But we don’t live in a SANE world anymore.


9 posted on 08/23/2016 9:36:27 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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The old man should have said:

1. I feared for my life.

2. I thought he was maneuvering to shoot me.

3. And now I want to talk to my lawyer.


15 posted on 08/23/2016 9:42:28 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Bad move, Sir. Per usual, the anti-gun rights activists will run with this story to demand more "common sense" gun control, ad nauseum.

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19 posted on 08/23/2016 9:45:37 AM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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The guy potentially endangered other lives by shooting “across the street”. In my CHL class, we were taught not to do that. The instructor spent a great deal of time teaching us about collateral damage and liability.


21 posted on 08/23/2016 9:47:58 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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Can’t shoot a fleeing perp under most circumstances.
Maybe if he’s armed and “maneuvering” against you.
But shooting at perp who is running away is got net you manslaughter at the very least.


27 posted on 08/23/2016 9:53:04 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Non threatening wounds? What was he using a Daisy or Crossman?


30 posted on 08/23/2016 9:56:22 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016? ...................... What are they thinking? Another Evita, Melba??)
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His defense should be that his reactions are slow, he aimed the gun while the defendant was approaching him, then by the time his brain got his finger to move on the trigger the guy had turned away. Makes sense if the dude is old enough.


34 posted on 08/23/2016 9:58:40 AM PDT by tioga
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Any person with an ounce of sense realizes that in America 2016 A.D. the criminal element is favored. "There comes a time in the history of every people when they become so pathologically soft and tender that they actually side with those elements of their society that harms them; i.e. criminals."- F. Nietzsche

"I was mugged and understand why"-Oliver Friedfezd student "The Hoya" a school newspaper.

37 posted on 08/23/2016 10:06:10 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Is homeowner in deep doo doo? Probably.

Do I have a problem with the idea of thieves getting shot while fleeing? Not really.
38 posted on 08/23/2016 10:07:29 AM PDT by JamesP81
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You need to know your local laws. In some places the use of deadly force is strictly limited to an immediate threat to life or threat of grave physical harm and limited to what a “reasonable (logical, well schooled in legal precedent, unexcited) man” would do.

In most jurisdictions (not all) someone running away from you is no longer a deadly threat, and the police should be called to try to settle things.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Yes there are places and reasons why you can shoot a fleeing felon, but you had better really know the laws before you do.

39 posted on 08/23/2016 10:10:47 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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Article writer is spot on.

“Our firearms are for self-defense when lives are on the line, folks. Keep in mind that every bullet fired at another human being is likely to carry a cost with it in terms of time, money, and personal anguish. Never fire a shot unless you absolutely must to save lives.”

Also add:

“Every single bullet has a lawsuit attached to it”

Marty Hayes, J.D.

http://armedcitizensnetwork.org/index.php/january-2015-network-journal/321-president-s-message


43 posted on 08/23/2016 10:18:44 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Yep...I took the same course in FL, and once the guy flees, it is no longer considered “self-defense”.


46 posted on 08/23/2016 10:43:00 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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He should have fired his shotgun through the front door like the Vice President told us to do! < / sarcasm off >


47 posted on 08/23/2016 10:46:06 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Trump is to the political class what Uber is to taxicab companies)
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That is exactly what got Michael Dunn convicted in Jacksonville in 2014. He emptied his gun into a fleeing car.


50 posted on 08/23/2016 10:57:48 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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1. This sounds like a bad shoot unless the perp had a firearm.

2. Shooter is very lucky the perp survived, downside will be a likely civil suit.

3. Shooter will probably achieve plea bargain and probation.

4. Shooter is a darn good shot, hit perp multiple times with a pistol from “across the street” which means probably 50-60 feet, and in a tense situation. That’s not easy, ask a cop.


58 posted on 08/23/2016 12:02:48 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns.)
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Depending on the state you’re in your defense might be:

In Calif: “He looked like Trump”
In Texas: “He looked like Hillary”


64 posted on 08/23/2016 2:20:55 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (The larger the government, the smaller the people)
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yep, its called self defense, you have no duty (or protections) to capture fleeing criminals.


65 posted on 08/23/2016 3:22:29 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Hillary- Time To Change the Bag...)
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