Posted on 08/17/2016 11:57:12 AM PDT by Red Steel
The polling company for Reuters is warning Wednesday that Hillary Rodham Clinton's lead over Republican Donald Trump appears soft.
In fact, Ipsos revealed that of the top three issues voters find most important, Clinton only leads one by a margin of 5 points.
"Simply put, the election still is far from over!" said Ipsos President Clifford Young. "While Clinton does lead Trump on the top quality 'stronger on economy/jobs' by five points, they are in a dead heat on 'terrorism' and 'fixing a broken system'–much closer than the 8-point average Clinton lead in the polls," he added.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Of course the news is slanted, it’s meant to play up intra-Republican tensions (sadly many freepers fall for that nonsense and go ballistic over all the stupid media stories) and turn idiot swing voters off of Trump. Polls are a seperate issue, unless one is a braindead moron who doesn’t vote if it looks their guy will lose then “discouraging” is not an issue.
I didn’t want to belive the polls were right in 2012, they were, Pres and Senate. I didn’t want to believe the polls from this year’s primaries were right, they were.
Some polls are iffy sure, ‘Monmouth; IN polls are too frigtening to believe. Quinapiac.
But by and large polling is fairly accurate, if you think everything is fine right now you’re living in Candyland. Hillary is ahead by 6 in the RCP average, if the election was tomorrow, she would win. Rather than deny it we need to be chagning it. Finally starting tv ads is a good start.
So, you know what’s weird? I used 31 and 27m, and some how came out with almost the exact same #s for Trump, i.e., 62m and Cankles at 59m. When you adjust for Johnson and Stein taking a max of 13% (Johnson evenly, Stein entirely from Cankles) Trump finishes at about 58.8, Cankles at about 54, and the others in the trough.
I would REALLY, REALLY like to see this kind of primary-to-general breakdown projection for
VA
OH
FL
PA
NV and
NH
We can’t do CO cause they had a caucus (thanks Ted).
In reality, Trump is way ahead, but don’t tell anyone......
Let the Hillary scum get over confident, like the entire MSM is.
LMAO!
Buh bye, Cankles
I think Trump has got this and those contested states will fall in place for him by November. He’s winning over more of the Rs everyday. Gov. Walker, Sen Gardner...
Better on the economy? What is her economic experience? (And no, soliciting foreign "donations" to be laundered through her "foundation" is not economic activity.)
Better on terrorism? Might want to ask Chris Stevens about that.
Better on "fixing a broken system"? I doubt a Democrat would fix anything that other Democrats have broken.
The country is in serious trouble, completely because of leftist stupidity.
Yep, these polls are accurate. If the election were tomorrow, Trump’s losing handily.
That said, I do agree that Hillary’s lead is soft as melted butter. If you generically assume Hillary up 45-37 in a four-way race, I think Trump will pick up 3-5 points automatically from GOP’ers coming home on November 8th as they understand the mess that is Hillary.
The rest is on Trump to act sane and Presidential and stay on script from here on out. He can still do this. This isn’t like “Clinton-Dole” in 96 where the race truly was over in August.
Trump vs. Hillary – It’s a No-Brainer
US Defense Watch ^ | August 17, 2016 | Ray Starmann
Posted on 8/17/2016, 8:37:27 PM by pboyington
The current election is historic for many reasons: the Democrats have nominated a woman for the first time to run for the nation’s highest office and a blue collar billionaire has galvanized the Silent Majority and created a modern populist movement of patriots from every corner of society. Meanwhile, GOP Establishment pundits and politicians plot and scheme to sabotage the election without any thought of the consequences.
Hillary Clinton has at least 75% of the media on her side, doing whatever they can to help her. The liberal media is collaborating with the Clinton Campaign in a grandiose Maskirovka, psy ops campaign the KGB would have envied. Deception is the order of the day. Polls numbers are inflated or completely concocted. The slightest off color comment by Trump is jettisoned out at light speed to leftist trolls in the social media world. Any negative information about the Clinton Foundation, the Email Scandal, Benghazi and the women Bill Clinton has raped and molested is buried within minutes.
Rumors of Hillary’s horrendous health issues, including petit mal seizures, bizarre facial expressions, losing track of her thoughts, falling, fainting, forgetfulness and referring to Trump as her husband are all brushed off as part of that Right Wing Conspiracy that has seemed to follow Hillary around since the day she was fired from the Watergate Committee for immoral behavior.
This election is historic, but it is also a no-brainer. If you want four to eight more years of the Obama Administration’s disastrous policies, by all means, vote for Hillary Clinton. If you want a President who could be worse than Obama, vote for Hillary Clinton.
reerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3460568/posts
Just remember, all polls are instruments for manipulating public opinion. They are tools of the establishment.
Many of the so called pollsters have been Democrat Operatives for decades going back to when they predicted Carter would beat Reagan.
Pollsters today are like the buggy whip makers in the early 1900’s, facing economic devastation because they can’t poll many people. They are in a losing battle with social media and cell phones.
Now, they are trying to compete with cell phones, social media and the problem of less landline phones.
More and more people on both ends of the age spectrum do not have landline phones. They only have cell phones.
Does anyone with a cell phone ever answer any unknown numbers and specifically any 800 #’s?
Probably not.
We use no more robocalls on our two land lines. Zero pollsters have gotten through since we started using no more robocalls, 2 plus years ago.
None of our voting age relatives have received a call from any pollster this election. That is 20+ Trump voters.
Then, there is this on social media versus polls:
Social Media Patterns Show Trump Is Looking at a Landslide Victory
Gateway Pundit ^ | Aug 7th, 2016 | Jim Hoft
Posted on 8/7/2016, 8:32:37 AM by detective
Current polls show the race for President is much tighter than it really is. Ann Coulter warned us years ago in her bestseller Slander that Democrats and the liberal media always use polls to manipulate and discourage conservatives from voting. Thanks to social media there is more and more evidence that the polls are way off and if things stay as they are, Trump will win in a landslide!
It’s evident that, Hillary has a hard time filling a Union Hall or high school gym while Trump regularly turns people away from his stadium and arena venues.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3457347/posts
A final question have you or any Trump voters, you know, actually been polled this year?
polling: the best way to approach it ...
at 269 to 269, the questionable Trump states would be
NV IA FL OH NH for 62 EV
close Clinton states, VA, PA, CO, WI, MN for 62 EV
poll just those states, weighting each state by the EV.
This is valuable information on how the election will go.
I believe the models they are using are flawed, but polling could help determine that. Are they over-weighting the black vote, which will be down compared to 08 and 12 ?
What about the unlikely voters .... will they be a larger factor than in ‘12? do they lean Trump? A poll of unlikely voters in those swing states would be interesting.
who are the undecided? what are there Demographics? what about the enthusiasm gap? and the “uncertainty gap”?
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/swing-states#
the 11 state battleground poll includes MICH, not MINN
wish someone would simply poll those 11 states instead of a national poll
not sure why MICH is getting attention and not MINN
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton-5533.html
6 recent MICH polls
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mn/minnesota_trump_vs_clinton-5591.html
only ONE in MINN
Tis curious, MN has been closer than MI the last couple elections. The illegal judicial fiat restoring straight ticket voting in MI is a significant blow to our chances there.
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