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The Myth of the 'Gay Conservative'
Scott Lively Ministries ^ | July 28, 2015 | Scott Lively

Posted on 07/29/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by fwdude

It was with disappointment but not surprise that I read the news about the standing ovation that openly homosexual Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel received at the Republican national convention. It’s being spun by some conservatives as merely appreciation for Thiel breaking ranks with the Trump bashers of Silicon Valley, but in fact there’s a serious problem of moral compromise on the homosexual issue in the GOP and we need to face it for what it is.

Ronald Reagan was not a perfect man, but he was a great man and an outstanding leader whose presidency marked the high point of conservatism in the latter half in the 20th century. In 1983 President Reagan did two things that exemplify the battle of left and right ideologies that still define the culture war: On February 3rd of that year, in a message to the National Prayer Breakfast, he declared 1983 to be “The Year of the Bible,” and one month later in a speech to the National Association of Evangelicals, he declared the Communist Soviet Union to be an “Evil Empire.” In that latter address he contrasted America’s Judeo-Christian heritage with the Atheism of the Soviets, explaining that this contrast was at the heart of the conflict between the US and USSR.

In 1980 Candidate Reagan rode a wave of populist conservatism into the White House, in defiance of the GOP establishment, which was forced to settle for getting their man George Herbert Walker “read my lips” Bush in the VP slot. They bided their time and once Reagan was termed out they went back to steering the ship of state toward the New World Order with Mr. Bush, the former CIA spymaster, at the helm.

But President Reagan had been so effective at articulating conservative values, and so courageous in pushing back against his Cultural Marxist opponents in media, academia and government, that America experienced a massive spiritual, cultural and patriotic revival during the 1980s whose influence lingers even today.

So powerful was Reagan’s impact on the GOP, that the hands of elitists Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain and Romney were publicly tied on the homosexual issue, though the GOP brass kept advancing the “gay” cause behind the scenes. And so powerful was the revival of moral values of the Reagan Revolution on the culture at large, that it’s taken more than a quarter century, millions of hours of pop-culture propaganda, the complete takeover of the US public education system, and the blatant hijacking of the federal judiciary for the Cultural Marxists to undo it.

Reagan’s power did not come from the Party, it came from his Biblical values. And his conservatism was not measured by how many feet it walked behind liberalism on the path to globalism. What he fought to “conserve” was the authentic Christian worldview of the Founding Fathers as embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. He did not accept the Marxist “Tide of History” lie, but pushed boldly in the opposite direction, advancing the Kingdom of God in world affairs and reclaiming lost territory in the domestic culture war. Under Reagan, “American Exceptionalism” was real, and not just a neo-con euphemism for bullying the world.

Ronald Reagan would never have allowed Peter Thiel to use the GOP stage to legitimize homosexuality, nor would the populist conservatives of the Reagan Revolution have ever applauded it.

Reagan knew that true conservatism is absolutely incompatible with the “gay” agenda. The two are as contradictory in principle and practice as marital fidelity and adultery. Every plank of its platform rests on the foundation of the Bible, from private property, to national identity and security, to personal freedom, to law and order: Conservatism stands for the truth of God or it stands for nothing. And the truth of God is clearer on the danger of legitimizing sexual deviance, especially homosexuality, than on any other social policy. It was the Reagan-era Supreme Court that affirmed the right of states to criminalize homosexual sodomy in Bowers v Hardwick (1986) a decision vigorously defended by Reagan appointee Antonin Scalia, his closest ideological ally on the court.

Ronald Reagan reminded America that our enemy was Marxism, that the root of its evil was godlessness, and that its goal was the total elimination of Judeo-Christian civilization. To quote The Communist Manifesto of Marx and Engles directly, “Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.”

The primary tactic of Marxists is syncretism, meaning the blending of two opposing views into a compromised view that’s always one step closer to Marxist goals. It’s called the Marxist Dialectic, and was taught to Soviet schoolchildren with a little dance: “Two Steps Forward, One Step Back — Net Gain One Step.” In other words: Demand a radical leftward change of policy and then compromise with the conservatives so that you get only part of what you demanded, but still move forward toward your goal. That strategy is detailed in astonishingly forthright terms in the must-read LGBT Manifesto, “The Overhauling of Straight America.” http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

Sadly post-Reagan Republicans have proven to be endlessly gullible and susceptible to this strategy.

Nowhere has this been more obvious than at Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News Network. In 1996 Fox designated itself as the guardian of the conservative hen house and heir to the Reagan legacy, launching what began as a genuinely conservative news network. Over time, however, Fox became merely an arm of the GOP. As Republican elites increasingly capitulated to the Marxist “Tide of History,” especially on LGBT issues, Fox continuously adjusted its personnel and programming to reflect the compromises and make them palatable to the masses.

On behalf of the GOP establishment Fox has led the way in normalizing the myth of the “gay conservative,” and other “conservative” media outlets have followed suit, such as Breitbart with it’s openly “gay,” spotlight-hungry representative “Milo.” But like the truth of the Bible, true conservatism doesn’t “change with the times.” If it abandons its logical presuppositions, such as the resolve to protect civilization from the cancer of sexual degeneracy, then it loses all moral authority. True conservatism must agree with God that “A man must not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).

President Reagan once said in a speech to his conservative supporters “Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”

By Reagan’s standard we’re going under. It’s time for conservatives to reject the Marxist-invented myth of the “gay conservative” and get back to Biblical truth.


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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Hey, you’re the one who just wants numbers and don’t care what they believe! “

They hate the authoritarian social justice left, and want to work to stop them before all of our freedom is lost.

And lookie here! So do I!

So it looks like I did “care what they believed”. Cant say that you are all that passionate because you are too busy peeping through windows into bedrooms.


81 posted on 07/29/2016 8:29:26 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: circlecity

He gave a speech where he said the whole bathroom thing is a distraction, and we should concentrate on other more important matters than the ‘fake culture war.’ But it seems to me if you were a business owner and the state forced you to let men use your women’s exclusive areas its not some sort of fake distraction. I mean how could it be?

Freegards


82 posted on 07/29/2016 8:29:41 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: free_life

Are you going to embrace Obamacare advocates in the GOP as well?


83 posted on 07/29/2016 8:29:52 AM PDT by fwdude (If we keep insisting on the lesser of two evils, that is exactly what they will give us from now on.)
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To: baxtelf

You and your ‘apolitical’ homosexual friends should tell your political homosexual friends to stfu. The latter is the problem, the social conservatives aren’t.

Capiche?


84 posted on 07/29/2016 8:33:27 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Hillary is crooked because she certainly ain't straight.)
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To: mrsmel
That’s the big thing where the alt right loses me. As a Christian, I can never accept sodomy, and I can never not support Israel. If God said that Jewish people are His chosen people, then that’s the last word on it. God said He will bless those who bless them, and curse those who curse them.

G-d bless you!

The "alt-right" is horrible. They condemn Israel constantly (like their leftist "opponents"). Furthermore (I don't know if you've heard about this), when Ben Shapiro announced the birth of a new child recently the "alt-righters" flooded his Twitter with pictures of Auschwitz and remarks about him and his family belonging in the ovens. I know Ben Shapiro is not popular here right now, but that is a disgusting and evil thing to do regardless of what one thinks of his current position on the candidates. That is what "conservative hero" Milo Yiannopoulos is part of, and what he apologizes for . . . when he isn't engaged in "other activities."

85 posted on 07/29/2016 8:33:39 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

“Since you don’t object to homosexuality, they can’t be fighting against you very hard. “

My biggest threat right now are the social justice authoritarian left and radical Islam. Maybe you dont know much about either but one wants to remove all freedom from EVERYONE, and the other wants us all dead.

So sorry if that ranks above gays at this moment.

“Thank you for the implicit admission that you would gladly accept anti-Semites and neo-Nazis as allies. “

Oh will you shut up. I’m not dealing with your bullsh*t straw man argument on purpose.

“I hope G-d gives us victory in the election despite the provocations of people like you.”

Now there is that classic lazy conservative attitude I’m talking about.

Hopefully God will pass out a political win to you like Happy Meals because you pulled up to the drive-thru and you are just special.

Well while you are waiting, the rest of us will be busy.


86 posted on 07/29/2016 8:34:15 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: circlecity

And in that speech, he proclaimed his gay pride, and received a standing ovation from “conservatives”. Maybe when an adulterer proclaims his pride in adultery, or leads parades celebrating it, and belongs to a movement which wants to force Christian churches to not only “tolerate” but celebrate sodomy, at the next Republican convention, that person should receive a standing ovation too.


87 posted on 07/29/2016 8:35:40 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: free_life
Neither gays nor the gay agenda was being cheered at convention, they were cheering the all gays must vote Democrat bs.

Why would any conservative want the votes of anti-G-d homosexuals?

Just wait till the Left makes bestiality the next big "civil rights" issue. Then people like you will be begging bestialists to vote Republican!

88 posted on 07/29/2016 8:35:55 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

That’s fine you can be in your own closed group. I, like most younger people now, am mainly agnostic so I’m not one of you anyway but don’t have any problem defending your right to believe as you wish.

It’s just reality to face the shrinking number of hard core Christians that exist now and start attracting people to the Republican party that agree on more than religion. I understand that is not a popular opinion here and can accept your criticism while still working with you.

Alt-right is a growing group while religious conservatives is getting smaller. The party needs to agree on more than religion to move forward. Again I have no problem with your agenda and your right to support it as you wish.


89 posted on 07/29/2016 8:39:41 AM PDT by baxtelf
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To: Graybeard58
Sof davar hakol nishma`; ‘et-ha’Eloqim yera’ ve’et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha’adam.

Will you share with us what that means?

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter; fear G-d and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man." This is the next to the last verse of Ecclesiastes and is repeated as the final verse when it is read liturgically in the synagogues.

Does the idea offend you?

90 posted on 07/29/2016 8:39:46 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: mrsmel

I didn’t see the speech but if he was really pushing his gay pride and the gay agenda, then I agree there should be no place for that at a Republican convention. I had never even heard of the guy until I read he gave a speech at the convention.


91 posted on 07/29/2016 8:42:01 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: j.argese

Was a time, not too long ago, when people knew it was impolite to ask how much you made, where you went to church and what you did behind closed doors with another consulting adult.

###############################

Asking where they go to church is impolite? I’ve been impolite a great many times then. I usually ask first, if they attend church, if not I invite them to mine. If they already have a church, they usually tell me where.

Back in the early 80s, I asked the Master of my Masonic Lodge that question and he informed me that he was Jewish and where he attended services, then he asked me about my church. Altogether a very polite conversation.

Yes indeed, Jews are welcome in Masonic Lodges and shocker of shockers, we have Catholic members too.

The only thing that we don’t allow in are non believers in God, which disqualifies all Islamists.


92 posted on 07/29/2016 8:42:08 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Lent
Speaking for God now? First it was Reagan and now God? Boy you don't waste time do you?

I never claimed to speak for Reagan.

As a Theocrat, yes, what G-d says about any issue is of paramount importance to me.

93 posted on 07/29/2016 8:42:22 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You missed the point, ENTIRELY. Go back and reread the entire thread, and think.


94 posted on 07/29/2016 8:44:17 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: Lent
I don't sign my name on an agreement and then renege on it. Is that laudable to you?

No it isn't. But Ted Cruz is not an argument for supporting homosexuality and incurring the wrath of G-d. Have we not been punished enough? Do you want to keep losing elections?

95 posted on 07/29/2016 8:44:19 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: longfellowsmuse

I don’t believe that there is a truly conservative American political party anymore, there’s just two different sides of globalism, and populism. Both parties want Christians and others concerned with social issues from a conservative POV to just shut up and go away (even as some say “Well, then why don’t you do something, like that sodomite guy is doing?) They can’t mean that, because if they did, they wouldn’t have a problem with us even merely mentioning our dissent to having conservatism morphed into something it never was, historically. They don’t want us to do something, as usual, they want us to just shut up and go away. Just like they wanted the Moral Majority to do. The fiscal branch of “conservatism” wants the social branch of conservatism (which historically was an integral part of conservatism) to just go away already. They don’t believe it, but they’re going to get what they want eventually, but it’s not going to be what they wanted, it’s going to be very different.


96 posted on 07/29/2016 8:44:43 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Many Christians tell me they refuse to get involved in politics because the rapture is coming soon and they know they’ll be floated off to safety in the nick of time.

When I respond, ok, but what if your children and grand kids are left behind? If you’re not around to homeschool them, would the type of government you leave behind matter then?

Blank stares, every time.


97 posted on 07/29/2016 8:46:51 AM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again.)
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To: VanDeKoik
Dont lecture me, preacher. I’ll stand with 10,000 people that you pray for God to smite if they are going to help fight the authoritarian left

If homosexuals aren't part of the authoritarian left, then who is? What do you think this is about . . . taxes?

over some bohunks that are waiting for Jesus to clean up the mess they are too good to lift a finger to do.

J*sus has nothing whatsoever to do with this. Jeez, you have chrstianity on the brain. Try to understand this (I'll type very slowly) I . . . am . . . not . . . a . . .chrstian. Did that make it through that cranium? I'm not interested in chrstianity. I'm interested in the Will and Laws of G-d. And if you can't tell the difference between G-d and chrstianity, then you are really dim.

Your attitude is as retarded as some solider in WW2 that didn’t want to fight the Nazis along side blacks.

Very cute. Yet you are the one who said you didn't care who was on our side. That clearly includes not only homosexuals but anti-Semites and neo-Nazis, unless and until you come out and plainly state that you would not accept the support of such people.

Some of us are too busy fighting the left to check papers right now.

If you apologize for political homosexuality, then you aren't fighting the Left at all. Violating the Laws of G-d is what the Left is all about . . . not people like you.

If you can pray to make the left go away tomorrow, then you ought to really demonstrate this because you guys seem to not be getting through.

Just keep provoking the wrath of G-d on our side. That'll sure work where prayer failed. [/sarcasm]

98 posted on 07/29/2016 8:52:01 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: baxtelf

That true Christianity has shrunk to a small but faithful remnant is no surprise. The Bible said that it would be so, many times. The path to Heaven is a narrow way.


99 posted on 07/29/2016 8:55:40 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: VanDeKoik
“Hey, you’re the one who just wants numbers and don’t care what they believe! “

They hate the authoritarian social justice left,

So homosexuals hate the authoritarian social justice left? Then why is the authoritarian social justice left all about homosexuality?

and want to work to stop them before all of our freedom is lost.

The only "freedom" we have is from G-d. There is no "right" to violate the laws of G-d by anyone at any time. That doesn't mean any of us are perfect; what it does mean is that the rest of us aren't declaring a sin to be something other than a sin and fighting for the "right" to practice it (not to mention forcing everyone else to participate against their consciences).

You don't sound like a conservative at all. Maybe you belong on a secularist libertarian forum.

100 posted on 07/29/2016 8:56:23 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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