Posted on 07/29/2016 7:17:06 AM PDT by fwdude
It was with disappointment but not surprise that I read the news about the standing ovation that openly homosexual Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel received at the Republican national convention. It’s being spun by some conservatives as merely appreciation for Thiel breaking ranks with the Trump bashers of Silicon Valley, but in fact there’s a serious problem of moral compromise on the homosexual issue in the GOP and we need to face it for what it is.
Ronald Reagan was not a perfect man, but he was a great man and an outstanding leader whose presidency marked the high point of conservatism in the latter half in the 20th century. In 1983 President Reagan did two things that exemplify the battle of left and right ideologies that still define the culture war: On February 3rd of that year, in a message to the National Prayer Breakfast, he declared 1983 to be “The Year of the Bible,” and one month later in a speech to the National Association of Evangelicals, he declared the Communist Soviet Union to be an “Evil Empire.” In that latter address he contrasted America’s Judeo-Christian heritage with the Atheism of the Soviets, explaining that this contrast was at the heart of the conflict between the US and USSR.
In 1980 Candidate Reagan rode a wave of populist conservatism into the White House, in defiance of the GOP establishment, which was forced to settle for getting their man George Herbert Walker “read my lips” Bush in the VP slot. They bided their time and once Reagan was termed out they went back to steering the ship of state toward the New World Order with Mr. Bush, the former CIA spymaster, at the helm.
But President Reagan had been so effective at articulating conservative values, and so courageous in pushing back against his Cultural Marxist opponents in media, academia and government, that America experienced a massive spiritual, cultural and patriotic revival during the 1980s whose influence lingers even today.
So powerful was Reagan’s impact on the GOP, that the hands of elitists Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain and Romney were publicly tied on the homosexual issue, though the GOP brass kept advancing the “gay” cause behind the scenes. And so powerful was the revival of moral values of the Reagan Revolution on the culture at large, that it’s taken more than a quarter century, millions of hours of pop-culture propaganda, the complete takeover of the US public education system, and the blatant hijacking of the federal judiciary for the Cultural Marxists to undo it.
Reagan’s power did not come from the Party, it came from his Biblical values. And his conservatism was not measured by how many feet it walked behind liberalism on the path to globalism. What he fought to “conserve” was the authentic Christian worldview of the Founding Fathers as embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. He did not accept the Marxist “Tide of History” lie, but pushed boldly in the opposite direction, advancing the Kingdom of God in world affairs and reclaiming lost territory in the domestic culture war. Under Reagan, “American Exceptionalism” was real, and not just a neo-con euphemism for bullying the world.
Ronald Reagan would never have allowed Peter Thiel to use the GOP stage to legitimize homosexuality, nor would the populist conservatives of the Reagan Revolution have ever applauded it.
Reagan knew that true conservatism is absolutely incompatible with the “gay” agenda. The two are as contradictory in principle and practice as marital fidelity and adultery. Every plank of its platform rests on the foundation of the Bible, from private property, to national identity and security, to personal freedom, to law and order: Conservatism stands for the truth of God or it stands for nothing. And the truth of God is clearer on the danger of legitimizing sexual deviance, especially homosexuality, than on any other social policy. It was the Reagan-era Supreme Court that affirmed the right of states to criminalize homosexual sodomy in Bowers v Hardwick (1986) a decision vigorously defended by Reagan appointee Antonin Scalia, his closest ideological ally on the court.
Ronald Reagan reminded America that our enemy was Marxism, that the root of its evil was godlessness, and that its goal was the total elimination of Judeo-Christian civilization. To quote The Communist Manifesto of Marx and Engles directly, “Communists everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things.”
The primary tactic of Marxists is syncretism, meaning the blending of two opposing views into a compromised view that’s always one step closer to Marxist goals. It’s called the Marxist Dialectic, and was taught to Soviet schoolchildren with a little dance: “Two Steps Forward, One Step Back — Net Gain One Step.” In other words: Demand a radical leftward change of policy and then compromise with the conservatives so that you get only part of what you demanded, but still move forward toward your goal. That strategy is detailed in astonishingly forthright terms in the must-read LGBT Manifesto, “The Overhauling of Straight America.” http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
Sadly post-Reagan Republicans have proven to be endlessly gullible and susceptible to this strategy.
Nowhere has this been more obvious than at Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News Network. In 1996 Fox designated itself as the guardian of the conservative hen house and heir to the Reagan legacy, launching what began as a genuinely conservative news network. Over time, however, Fox became merely an arm of the GOP. As Republican elites increasingly capitulated to the Marxist “Tide of History,” especially on LGBT issues, Fox continuously adjusted its personnel and programming to reflect the compromises and make them palatable to the masses.
On behalf of the GOP establishment Fox has led the way in normalizing the myth of the “gay conservative,” and other “conservative” media outlets have followed suit, such as Breitbart with it’s openly “gay,” spotlight-hungry representative “Milo.” But like the truth of the Bible, true conservatism doesn’t “change with the times.” If it abandons its logical presuppositions, such as the resolve to protect civilization from the cancer of sexual degeneracy, then it loses all moral authority. True conservatism must agree with God that “A man must not lie with a man as with a woman. It is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).
President Reagan once said in a speech to his conservative supporters “Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”
By Reagan’s standard we’re going under. It’s time for conservatives to reject the Marxist-invented myth of the “gay conservative” and get back to Biblical truth.
This and your other post. I'm not a theocrat. Whenever theocracies were attempted in christendom they didn't end well. We can toil and bring basic righteous principles to the table given our own sinfulness and failures. I have a different concept of the failure of man than you. That's fine. What I don't believe we need to do is condemn people before they have had an opportunity to reform. In the meantime they can make their own contributions. I reject those I disagree with and have common ground in others. That's the stuff on a country founded on a Constitution which thankfully does not fall prey to Sharia law where you will get plenty of theocracy there.
In Sharia law you can have all the joy in the world in pulling that man off the stage and throwing him headlong off a tall building. That should extinguish that man and his sin completely.
It appears that conservative no longer have a party.
“So homosexuals hate the authoritarian social justice left? “
The ones that stray off the narrative, just like blacks, women, union workers, and other groups the left considers to be theirs.
But since the left i all about them too, I guess we better tell those people to shove off as well.
“The only “freedom” we have is from G-d.”
That’s all pretty and nice, but God doesn’t fight political battles, nor does he pick up guns when it gets that bad.
So do him a favor and stop waiting for him to make up for your lack of effort, because he isnt going to jump in at the last minute and save you.
“You don’t sound like a conservative at all. Maybe you belong on a secularist libertarian forum.”
Maybe you can spend less time acting like some gatekeeper?
I dont consider lazy virtue-signaling self-righteous blowhards that cant beat an egg, let along the left, to be a conservative myself.
But then again I dont live my life waiting for approval of people that CANT do anything but talk a good game. So you can call me whatever you want from that comfy chair of yours.
Indeed. Oh well, it’s not news that man is fallible, not to mention fallen.
You're the one who doesn't know anything about the social justice authoritarian left. Because the SJAL is all about homosexuality, transgenderism, and perversions of every kind precisely because they violate G-d's laws.
As for islam, the only problem with it is that it's a false religion. Are you aware of the fact that religions can't be judged by secular standards? Each claims to represent the Ultimate Authority, and by definition the Ultimate Authority doesn't answer to secular standards of right and wrong. The only standard a religion can be judged against is if it is true or false.
You are perhaps unaware (since you are a thoroughgoing secularist) that ancient Biblical Israel was far closer to today's islamic states than it was to American low church Protestantism. It didn't recognize a "right" to worship any G-d other than the True One. There was no "religious freedom" to practice whatever you wanted to. There was freedom to obey G-d--the only legitimate freedom there is. Biblical Israel is the only true Theocracy that has ever existed in history, and it will be restored and eventually cover the whole world (the sooner the better). The constant attacks by conservatives on islam for "homophobia," "theocracy," and for not being "enlightened" are very troubling. All that matters is if it is true or false. If it is true (G-d forbid!) then everyone should be a moslem. If not, then no one should be a moslem. But Voltaire and Thomas Jefferson have nothing to say about it.
Every time I hear a chrstian conservative call for secularism and tolerance of homosexuality in Turkey or Saudi Arabia I'm reminded why Orthodox Jews traditionally support secularism in traditionally chrstian countries. And yes, both attitudes are wrong.
Oh will you shut up. I’m not dealing with your bullsh*t straw man argument on purpose.
Since you have plainly stated that you don't care who is on your side and that only numbers matter, it certainly isn't a straw man . . . is it?
No fooling? I couldn't tell. [/sarcasm]
Alt-right is a growing group
Of keyboard neo-Nazis.
He is like anyone else. Look at the NeverTrumpers. Some of them were strong conservatives but have become so bent and narcissistic that they are willing to help Hillary win, even if they don't admit that.
Sorry, FRiend, but it was precisely our willingness to “compromise” on abortion that got us Roe v. Wade.
Specifically, agreeing to limit “pregnancy termination” to the first 12 weeks kicked the door open, making it easy-peasy for the left to continue pushing the woman’s “right to choose” “late term abortion” up to, and even after, the moment of birth.
A child in the womb not a disposable blob of goo until 12 weeks, nor until it emerges from the womb. It’s a baby, a human being with a full set of human dna from the moment of conception.
So we either allow baby killing, or we don’t. There’s no in between.
I am.
Whenever theocracies were attempted in christendom they didn't end well.
Well, since chrstianity is a false religion, that's gonna happen.
What is it with you people that everyone who believes in G-d and advocates Theocracy is always assumed to be a chrstian? You are aware that the only Theocracy in history existed before chrstianity was ever founded, right?
Are you even aware that chrstianity is only two thousand years old?
So we should have a Jewish theocracy? That worked out really well for Israel, didn’t it?
Thanks for all that Christian love!
You just made my point on why the last two Republican candidates have failed.
What is it with you people that everyone who believes in G-d and advocates Theocracy is always assumed to be a chrstian? You are aware that the only Theocracy in history existed before chrstianity was ever founded, right?
Are you even aware that chrstianity is only two thousand years old?
I didn't presume anything. I assumed we were talking about western nations including the United States. These have been dominated the last 1800 years or so with christianity. I am well aware of the theocracy in Israel's past.
I don't want to get in a religious war with you as your views are your own and God bless you for them.
“You’re the one who doesn’t know anything about the social justice authoritarian left. Because the SJAL is all about homosexuality, transgenderism, and perversions of every kind precisely because they violate G-d’s laws.”
Ok....I’m more worried about the survival of the nation right now, because right now there isnt anything you can do about people’s weird sex habits. If you are 100% devoted to that as your #1 cause, then you arent much help.
The SJWs use these minority groups in order to institute thought and language policing as a shield to then institute greater authoritarian control over the entire nation. Just like blacks, women, blue collar workers, or whatever group they can latch onto over the past 50 years, they are PROPS.
They don’t give a damn about gays as illustrated in how they gladly tossed them under the bus after Orlando.
They don’t care about blacks as illustrated in how they have wrecked the black family through welfare.
They don’t care about Women as illustrated in how they have taken away their ability to fulfill their roles in civilization in exchange for a “career”.
They dont care about workers as illustrated in how they have embraced globalism and free trade.
Anyone from those and other groups that see the BS, and want to jump ship to start fighting them is welcome.
Depending on people slinging a Bible around, thinking that God going to mop this all up, and that everyone else can go pound sand, can go and get their heads unscrewed out of their rears.
But since the left i all about them too, I guess we better tell those people to shove off as well.
You mean that being Black, female, or a union worker is forbidden by Divine Law? Wow. I'd never heard this. Just where did you pick up this astounding bit of information? [/sarcasm]
The moment you put homosexuality (a forbidden activity) in the same category as ethnic groups you have shown yourself to be a member of the "social justice authoritarian left," since this is their doctrine. You have no business calling yourself a conservative with such notions.
That’s all pretty and nice, but God doesn’t fight political battles,
He doesn't? So who puts people in and out of power? Does someone other than G-d do that? Because it was my understanding that G-d is the Absolute Sovereign of all reality and controls everything that happens through his Divine Providence. I didn't realize that He was just a mythological "Santa Claus" like figure representing our own efforts. Thank you so much for opening my eyes, you disgusting atheist. And btw, the Democrats can have the atheists too.
nor does he pick up guns when it gets that bad.
Because every good little "freedom-loving" pro-pervert Bible-hating atheist Jacobin "conservative" knows that only people and their guns actually do anything. G-d is kinda just, like, out there, man. [/sarcasm]
I dont consider lazy virtue-signaling self-righteous blowhards that cant beat an egg, let along the left, to be a conservative myself.
Like someone who considers homosexuals and atheists to be conservatives-in-good-standing has the least thing to say about it. Oh yeah, I'm really gonna bawl all night because the president of the Milo Yiannopoulos fan club doesn't consider me a "conservative." Boo-hoo. How shall I ever continue to live???
But then again I dont live my life waiting for approval of people that CANT do anything but talk a good game. So you can call me whatever you want from that comfy chair of yours.
Considering the fact that I spend much of my time on this forum arguing with chrstians that their "faith" is based on absolutely nothing but subjective feelings with no objective proof whatsoever (and you can imagine what they think of me for doing it), I don't know who on this forum you think I'm trying to please. All my life I've been a lonely little minority of one. It isn't fun, and it's lonesome, but it's all I can do.
Yes it did. It fell because of `avodah zarah and sin'at chinnam, but the Third Temple will be everlasting. You have heard of the "messiah," haven't you?
So, you think G-d has no authority at all?
My number one, and only, cause is G-d. Opposition to homosexuality is one part of that. Support of Jews and Israel is another. And there's lots more, of course.
Since you're a newbie, I'll forgive you this one time for assuming I'm a chrstian. But don't ever do it again.
I got news for you . . . nowhere in the TaNa"KH (Hebrew Bible) does it say that "G-d is love." Read the Book of Joshua and you'll get an idea of the G-d I attempt to follow.
Your views are in the minority now, by a mile. Many conservatives see this as a fight against a raging, totalitarian leftism that threatens to erase western civilization, and with it our freedoms.
You are a religious fundamentalist who would, no doubt if you could, drag us back to the time when women had few options in life and were subject to the directives of men, when men who differed, especially sexually, were ostracized or even beaten and had to hide who they were. Your views are nearly indistinguishable from those of the Taliban, and are grossly incompatible with the freedoms that define western civilization.
And many conservatives including myself, reject such thinking. Many of us are happy to see the tent of conservatism expand to include all who believe that progressives seek to remove liberty and impose a totalitarian fascism on the world. We may just need to agree to disagree, and pull together to fight the enemy.
How do you compromise murder?
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