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Hillary leads in final pre-convention polls from ABC, NBC, and CNN
HotAir.com ^ | 07/17/2016 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 07/17/2016 12:24:35 PM PDT by MaxistheBest

Given the news today about cops being shot in Baton Rouge, I don’t know if it’s worth writing up any new polls before, say, November 1st. America’s too volatile a place in 2016 to have any confidence about what the public’s mood will be next week, let alone three months from now.

For what it’s worth, though, here you go. CNN has the race 49/42, NBC/WSJ has it 46/41, and ABC/WaPo has it 47/43. Of the three, only the last one shows any movement towards Trump, which is interesting since their sample is D+10. (A month ago he trailed by 12.) The CNN poll actually has Hillary gaining two points since June despite the damage done to her by Emailgate. It may be more useful to think of these polls in the aggregate as a clue to the state of the race than by parsing the internal numbers: Scroll down through RCP’s poll history and you’ll find that Clinton’s current lead of four to seven points looks a lot like her polling in late June, before Comey’s announcement about the e-mail investigation on July 5th and the ambush of Dallas police a few days later (which may have also benefited the law-and-order candidate Trump). In other words, Hillary’s rough week may have just been a speed bump and now her numbers are returning to “normal.” Although as I say, in light of what’s going on right now, there really is no such thing as normal this year.

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KEYWORDS: 2016polls; election; poll; trump
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To: MaxistheBest
In 2008 there were 38,111,341 Democrat votes in the primary.

In 2016 there were 28,269,195. A net decrease of 9,842,146 (-29%)

In 2012 there were 19,214,513 Republican votes in primary.

In 2016 there were 30,261,999. A net increase of 11,047,486 (+57%)

21 posted on 07/17/2016 12:40:00 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: MaxistheBest

... Oh sure she does, hee,hee okie dokie, but, but, buttttttt only because dimmies were over sampled. If, if, if, if, if, if,if, you believe this poll you being hoodwinky dinkied.


22 posted on 07/17/2016 12:41:22 PM PDT by nightmarewhileawake
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To: MaxistheBest

Ignore all polls

Get Out The Vote


23 posted on 07/17/2016 12:41:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Biggirl

She is not in good health in other words.


that’s what I think too.

Take a close look at her VP running mate, because there’s an excellent chance that person will become Mr. or Madame President.


24 posted on 07/17/2016 12:41:56 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: EinNYC

Both A. and B. are correct. Yes, the polls are rigged. Yes, we have an incredible amount of really REALLY stupid people in this country. If we can somehow convince the newly arrived immigrant to vote republican, that will help us greatly.


25 posted on 07/17/2016 12:42:55 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Biggirl

She still hasn’t tweeted on the shooting today. Talk about sleepin in!


26 posted on 07/17/2016 12:43:16 PM PDT by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)
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To: goldstategop

The chicanery is as obvious as Clinton meeting Lynch on the airport tarmac.


27 posted on 07/17/2016 12:43:24 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (President Trump: It's all over but the counting)
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To: MaxistheBest
I'm not a conspiracy guy...but it kinda smells that after all the good Trump polls recently, both nationwide and state, that these 3 turn the narrative over.

Recent Rasmussen poll had Trump ahead. Nobody knows the true state of the race until Election Day. Until then, we have to compete against voters that are ignorant and want free stuff. How do you fight that?

28 posted on 07/17/2016 12:44:32 PM PDT by eekitsagreek
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To: AmusedBystander

Intersting voting stats.

So let’s remember that these polls don’t measure motivation to go vote, and may be slanted towards Hillary anyway.

So the actual electorate which shows up on Nov. 8th may be very different than these samples used for polls.

And how do these polls make sense, when viewed with some battleground state polls? Some polls show Trump ahead in PA, Ohio, Florida, and Iowa. It’s hard to believe that Trump is ahead in some key states but is that far behind nationwide. Something doesn’t add up.


29 posted on 07/17/2016 12:45:25 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well, if it’s cellulite, that is certainly unattractive, but usually not life threatening.


30 posted on 07/17/2016 12:46:46 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: MaxistheBest

Here’ the thing to remember... it is hard to imagine things getting much worse in the country. Cops being killed. Terrorists seemingly everywhere. Country going to hell in general... If Trump can’t get traction now, then I don’t anything changing to his benefit before the election.


31 posted on 07/17/2016 12:48:18 PM PDT by paul544
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The only poll that matters is November 2nd’s ‘poll.’

and that one is rigged

32 posted on 07/17/2016 12:48:36 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: MaxistheBest

We all know that these polls are made up bullshit.

We. Need to what the real polls say?


33 posted on 07/17/2016 12:50:53 PM PDT by seawolf101
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To: MaxistheBest
Ready for impact when she announces her Veep choice.

34 posted on 07/17/2016 12:51:24 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: goldstategop

Trump up by 3 in LA Times poll; up by 7 in Rasmussen poll; level at 40-40 in CBS/NYTimes poll. Somebody is not sampling right.


35 posted on 07/17/2016 12:52:08 PM PDT by laconic
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To: AmusedBystander

http://www.270towin.com/states/

In every one of the 11 battleground states, Obama got a lower % of the vote in 2012 than in 2008.

I believe these pollsters have a bank of trusted (liberal) registered voters that they can input into the call bank to move the needle when they have to.


36 posted on 07/17/2016 12:52:32 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: MaxistheBest

Last week I told my brother that these very polls would would release polls for this Sunday’s talk show that would show her ahead. I must be psychic.


37 posted on 07/17/2016 12:54:35 PM PDT by heights
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I still have not seen any hitlary bumper stickers. I really haven’t seen many Trump stickers either, however unlike Trump people, Hillary people do not have to worry about vandals


38 posted on 07/17/2016 12:57:31 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: MaxistheBest

Never forget that half of the nation believes that the Revolutionary War happened in 1864 and that we won our independence from France. Or maybe Germany. And that Abraham Lincoln and MLK were Democrats. Lol!


39 posted on 07/17/2016 12:58:42 PM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost, like tears in rain.)
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To: heterosupremacist

>> If we make it to November

Got plans to be in a warmer town come summer time


40 posted on 07/17/2016 1:00:46 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors)
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