Posted on 07/11/2016 10:34:52 AM PDT by marktwain
There is considerable controversy and confusion about the firearms used in the Dallas sniper attack against police officers. Early in the aftermath, numerous disarmist pundits proclaimed that it was an AR15 rifle, without any substantive verification of any kind. One of them was the “gun guy” on the Huffington Post. Another was Dallas Mayor (D) Mike Rawlings. From newswest9.com:
Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings says the suspect in the sniper slayings of five officers used an AR-15 rifle. Rawlings said that’s the type of weapon 25-year-old Micah Johnson used in the attack Thursday night in downtown Dallas. A similar assault weapon was used in the attacks at a nightclub in Orlando, Florida, that killed 49 people.
Early reports are often wrong. It is common for politically motivated individuals to put out false reports in an attempt to hijack the narrative. A couple of days later, many major news outlets were citing sources that the rifle used was an SKS. Some were from authoritative sources. From nytimes.com:
“It’s talking not only about how to kill but how to keep from being killed,” said Clay Jenkins, Dallas County’s chief executive and director of homeland security and emergency management, who said he had not read the original journal but had reviewed summaries of it. “It shows that he’s well prepared.”
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Mr. Jenkins said Mr. Johnson had used a semiautomatic SKS rifle and a high-capacity handgun. He drove his vehicle to the demonstration and parked it, Mr. Jenkins said, but was on foot at many points throughout the attack.
Another statement from Chief Executive Officer and Judge Clay Jenkins throws a bit more information into the mix. From sunny1015.com:
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Not an AR15, NOT an SKS, it is an AK-47 variant called a Vepr.
Wow, I’m old.
I remember that scene from Top Secret.
And it has a Tapco, 30 round magazine.
You want to compare the Sandy Hook deniers to this?
Go call Alex he wants to talk
Very nicely played
My SKS was modified to take 30-rnd mags - and looked just like the one in the photo after the cops killed him.......didn’t like the gun and got rid of it......
The weapon in the right hand photo is NOT an SKS and that is the weapon in question. It is either a Saiga or a Vapr of some sort. Just by the looks of it you can tell. Notice that the huge silver colored bolt is missing that you find on every SKS every produced.
It’s clearly an AK variant with Magpul furniture on the backend. Not sure about the fore-end, but there probably was no wood on it during the shootout.
My gramps has a pile of old tapes and one day he pulled that one out when I mentioned how awful Val Kilmer looks today. Never laughed so hard.
It’s definitely not an SKS.
Look at side of receiver and especially rounded profile at top rear of receiver on the SKS, its buried into the wooden stock. The one in the rubble has the standard ribbed sheet metal sides of the AK family. Profile at top rear is distinctly not the tubular profile of the SKS.
Has anyone identified what that is laying next to the rifle? Almost looks like a piece of the forestock blown off by the blast.
I think you’re right. If you zoom in on the stock right behind the barrel, it looks like something has been cut/removed/blown out from there. And if you turn the separate piece over, it looks like it would fit in that space.
>>obama will say it was a high capacity automatic glock Ar15.<<
In other words a “belt fed machine gun”?
with lots of clips, too. Don’t forget the ‘clips’
I seriously considered purchasing a VEPR in 308 Win years ago--a fine rifle that is a cut above most AKs. Whatever it is, the receiver is stamped, not milled.
It is an AK-74 (5.45x39mm). One can tell from the lesser curvature and length of the magazine. AK-47 mags are longer and have a pronounced curvature.
Surprising the number of guns lately that are drowning their sorrows and guilt in vats of cosmoline and subsequent funerals buried in the back 40 in hermetically sealed caskets.
VEPR in .308
“Optimist” def.: the guy at the range with optics mounted on an AK dust cover.
From photos posted in this thread, the Saiga has some thick metal piece at the front of the trigger guard. It matches the photo of the crime gun.
Saiga.
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