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I worked in the CIA under Bush. Obama is right to not say "radical Islam."
vox ^

Posted on 06/28/2016 1:32:58 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

The recent verbal attacks by the Republican presumptive nominee Donald Trump and his supporters on President Barack Obama for avoiding the phrase "radical Islam" in his public pronouncements are simplistic, racially inflammatory — and flatly misinformed.

Settling upon accurate and strategically nuanced terms to describe the post-9/11 enemy is not the product of "political correctness" (contra Trump) or a failure to understand the enemy (contra a much-discussed Atlantic cover story). Nor are objections to using overly broad terms like "Islamic radicalism" limited to Democrats. The Bush administration understood the power of words, too. It concluded that distinctions that may seem small to Christian-American ears make a big difference to the mainstream Muslims we need on our side.

When I directed the Political Islam Strategic Analysis Program at the CIA in the early 2000s, I frequently interacted with senior Bush administration policymakers about how to engage Muslim communities and, when doing so, which words and phrases to use to best describe the radical ideology preached by al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations. Always, the aim was to distinguish between radicals and extremists and the vast majority of mainstream Muslims, and to make sure the latter understood that we were not lumping them in with the former.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; cia; emilenakhleh; georgesoros; georgesorosmedia; ips; nakhleh; obama; vox
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To: ChicagoConservative27
most of the CIA people I know are liberal idiots who have been brainwashed by the government. You are programmed to do the bidding of the globalist. The ability to use common sense has been removed from your brain.
61 posted on 06/28/2016 2:01:49 PM PDT by deweyfrank (Nobody's Perfect)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
most of the CIA people I know are liberal idiots who have been brainwashed by the government. You are programmed to do the bidding of the globalist. The ability to use common sense has been removed from your brain.
62 posted on 06/28/2016 2:01:50 PM PDT by deweyfrank (Nobody's Perfect)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

May a Pox come upon Vox!!


63 posted on 06/28/2016 2:01:52 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Remove kebab”


64 posted on 06/28/2016 2:02:49 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

sure, but’s okay to call out right side conservatives who cling to their guns and bibles, got it...moron.


65 posted on 06/28/2016 2:02:53 PM PDT by SteveinSATX (Anti-liberalism 24/7)
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To: mkjessup
Islam is the enemy. Even Erdogan of Turkey has emphasized “there is no radical Islam, there is only Islam”.

Correct. And all who submit are, to borrow a term from Malachi Martin, the "perfectly possessed."

66 posted on 06/28/2016 2:03:33 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (If Trump loses, America dies)
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To: DJ Taylor

I read that.

I can’t post anymore for awhile.

And people don’t see what’s right in front of them: a nation essentially controlled by jihadis and their sympathizers.


67 posted on 06/28/2016 2:03:46 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Dhimmi


68 posted on 06/28/2016 2:03:48 PM PDT by Ray76 (The evil effect of Obergefell is to deprive the people of rule of law & subject us to tyranny!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Bush was bad on this subject also. Obama is worse but Bush had his lips locked to Saudi buttocks.


69 posted on 06/28/2016 2:04:25 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: ChicagoConservative27

As soon as I read “Bush Administration” I knew this would be a bunch of garbage.


70 posted on 06/28/2016 2:04:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GraceG

Better to just call it “Devout” or “Adherent/Observant” rather than the overused “Radical” or “Militant”.


71 posted on 06/28/2016 2:04:36 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Will I guess he is right. By not saying “Radical Islam the problem has gone away!


72 posted on 06/28/2016 2:06:09 PM PDT by woodenickel
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Virtually everyone working at the CIA is an Ivy League indoctrinated moon bat.

No wonder they are such complete F***ups for the last several decades.

73 posted on 06/28/2016 2:06:26 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Rastus
I hated voting for Bush. I hate even worse being right about him.

You and me both, brother.

74 posted on 06/28/2016 2:07:11 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“But to Muslims, or for anyone familiar with the many strands of Islam, the phrase connotes a direct link between the mainstream of the Muslim faith and the violent acts of a few.”

We knuckle-draggers need a PhD in Nuance to understand these Elites.

The entire premise of the article is that there are Muslims who are violent and extremist!

The real question is: WHY do Obama and Hillary care about making this tortuous nuance? Why does it matter if any Muslim is offended by words that should describe someone else?

The viable answers are clear to anyone, and they’re all frightening.


75 posted on 06/28/2016 2:07:43 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: GraceG

“I prefer to call it “Medina Islam” and then challenge all the “moderate Muslims” to only adopt the “Mecca Parts of the Quran” and to discard the rest... to become “Mecca Muslims”

No takers yet...”

Right there with ya! Will they risk the hudud judgement though?

KYPD


76 posted on 06/28/2016 2:08:04 PM PDT by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
racially inflammatory

Sorry, you're out. I will read no more.

77 posted on 06/28/2016 2:08:54 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
..."radical Islam" in his public pronouncements are simplistic, racially inflammatory ...

The author erred. Islam, radical or otherwise, is not a race; it is a religion.

78 posted on 06/28/2016 2:11:14 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Bush called Islam the ROP. He was wrong. Why can General Sisi of Egypt and French President Holland call it radical Islam and we cannot?

Nakhleh, who was born in Palestine and served in the CIA for 16 years before retiring in 2006, is a Muslim.

79 posted on 06/28/2016 2:15:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ChicagoConservative27

George W. Bush nominated a Muslim, Dr. Zalmay Khalilzad to be United States Ambassador to the United Nations after the Democrats refused to confirm John Bolton.
UN Ambassador is the highest post attained by a Muslim in the United States government.


80 posted on 06/28/2016 2:15:26 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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