More sore loser bloviating too?
Jeez.
They're baaaack...
Posted on 06/27/2016 8:47:46 AM PDT by Maceman
The conservative blogosphere is lighting up again with accusations of polling bias against Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in his race against Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton. However, Trump supporters should avoid giving into this temptation to assume unfavorable results must be biased results. Clinton really is leading Trump, and by nearly 6 percentage points.
The blogospherian argument goes something like this: Clinton is leading Trump by 5 to 7 points in certain polls because the pollsters oversampled or over-weighted Democrats by about 5 to 7 points. If the polls are “corrected” to include fewer Democrats then the race is actually tied, they say.
For instance, one blogger argues that a recent CBS News poll inflated the number of Democrats in the poll, comprised of 28 percent Republicans and 35 percent Democrats. Citing one pollster’s calculation, she thinks party identification in the United States is closer to parity, with 28 percent Republicans and only 29 percent Democrats rather than a seven-point Democratic advantage. She reasons that if you erase the partisan gap that would erase Clinton’s six-point lead over Trump.
For Trump supporters, this is a tempting narrative to believe. But this simply isn’t so. The fact is there just are more Democrats out there than Republicans, and this has largely been the case at least since the New Deal. That obviously doesn’t mean Democrats always win, but it’s unwise to assume a pollster is biased because its sample included more Democrats than Republicans.
(Excerpt) Read more at thefederalist.com ...
“Endless entertainment for us... “
I’M going for a 100, Pull!
PJ would tell us on his PJ Comix threads about someone over at DU who used to announce her disdain of a poster by solemnly declaring "You're on my iggy list". Can't remember her name, but she used to pompously tell everyone about her "high" degree of education.
That’s miss blogger to you and since she works at the Federalist she’s likely an anti Trump unless she’s one of the few exceptions there
YOU again?!
More sore loser bloviating too?
Jeez.
Didn’t one of Kerry’s SOS pr flacks threaten to Hashtag an Isis killer or something similar?
More sore loser bloviating too?
Jeez.
Thanks.
The trolls are out pushing their push polls, and your jpg is perfect to counter them.
LOL. Thanks...your posts have given me a couple of good laughs, today.
Ah, and you have a FR 'nasties' list you're keeping, huh? You sound unhappy, here. No one is forcing you to post....or stay.
LOL...who let the pearl clutchers back in?? Their fear and concern are noted :)
Sounds like conservatives are again fantasizing that the polls are “biased” and Trump’s gonna win in a “landslide.” By landslide, I guess they mean when a Republican barely squeaks by since that’s all the Republican party can manage today. Gone are the days when they carried 49 states and New York and California too. The new immigrants are overwhelmingly leftist, our young people are overwhelmingly leftist, and our country has turned leftist. Reagan, who many once though ushered in a new conservative era in America, turns out to be the last hurrah of a conservative country. The Millennials turned out to be even more leftist than the baby boomers. The rapid demographic changes have left the Republican party in the dust. To me, the future looks bleak not just for America, but for humanity too. The course of civilization seems to be slavery to struggle to poverty to growth to wealth to lethargic to spoiled to rebellion to struggle to slavery. When most of people reject everything that made you what you are, it cannot continue. Obama isn’t the problem. He is the symptom.
Your post made me plan my suicide.
Concerning the larger theme of polls, Limbaugh yesterday warned us not to be self deceived concerning the polls.
JEEZ
Just curious, after digesting your long post, I wonder how it was that barry squeaked out his last ‘win’ with all that data mining business. Doesn’t seem to add up imo.
I believe there is a movement afoot, and these methods are not telling the whole picture. Having said that, if the citizens of this great nation vote in the criminal clinton, I doubt we as a people will remain at peace. Sickening thought isn’t it?
Btw, when is cruz going to man up and get in the game with an endorsement? Hoping some die hard cruz supporters have some insight into this mystery.
Btw, when is cruz going to man up and get in the game with an endorsement? Hoping some die hard cruz supporters have some insight into this mystery.
LOL....to the reply post to you, regarding Trump.
So, ‘turn about is fair play’ - where Trump turned the tables on cRuz - is the ‘excuse’ given by the Sore cRuzerman’s for no endorsement. Whaaambulance time ;-)
You could have said, ‘we should treat the polls as accurate and work harder.’ Or ‘There’s still work to do’ or ‘We can’t be complacent.’
Instead your comments are all variations on the theme of ‘Trump sucks. I’m awesome. You’re all stupid.’ In wall of text format no less.
VERY tiresome to have a condescending windbag lecturing you.
More sore loser bloviating too?
Having read your post attacking me I concluded you have two objections:
1. You object to my mere presence.
2. You object because you believe I am "bloviating" which I take to mean empty verbosity. Let's consider whether my post is empty.
Unwilling to accommodate your first objection, I sought to answer your second criticism in my reply #172 in which I referred you to an article which happily had just appeared as the subject of a companion thread talking about data mining. As I indicated in my original post, I have been on this subject of the new electoral technology of data mining for some time and I have been warning about the perils of ignoring this new campaigning technique several times, citing the MIT Technology Review article which describes and purports to explain Romney's defeat. The criticism I level against those who do not data mine and couple it with the latest techniques, was explicitly aimed, not at Donald Trump as you seem unreasonably to infer, but clearly against Romney and the Republican Party.
Contrary to my clear statements, you allege that my "comments are all variations on the theme of "Trump sucks…" Clearly that was not the case and your criticism is well off the mark. For the record, I never said "I am awesome" nor did I say "you're all stupid." Am I supposed to defend myself against things that I did not say but have been falsely accused of? Here is what I did say in praise of Donald Trump:
We are depending on Trump's charisma, the power of his personality, and his unique ability to crystallize an issue and make it understandable and unforgettable to the mass of the voting public.
You suggest that I could have better exhorted all of us to stop dismissing the polls as false and work harder etc. to have done so would be to merely state the obvious and really to be guilty of condescension. I do not waste words or engaged in "bloviating" to waste time stating the obvious. Rather than engage in self deceived cheerleading which diverts us from working harder, I adduced reasons why we are in the place we are in as conservatives who want Trump to be elected:
1. The landscape of the electoral college. By this I mean that there are a few battleground states and Trump must run the table of these states or lose the election. It is possible that he can change the landscape of the electoral college in the rust belt etc. and I alluded to that describing the man's charismatic ability to frame issues. That has been one of the arguments in favor of his nomination all along. We shall see. It is a development devoutly to be wished for because it could change the slow and fatal constriction of the Republican Party and the conservative movement to an ever diminishing number of winnable states.
2. The undeniable fact, indeed the admitted fact, that the Trump campaign has very little money.
3. The media is against us.
4. That we have seen these polls (described by me as a "movie") several times before with a bad result. (This is in accord with what you say you want).
5. The undeniable fact, indeed the admitted fact, that Trump has not staffed up adequately for a national election.
6. The campaign is running out of time.
7. The undeniable fact, indeed the admitted fact, that the Trump organization is simply not set up for data mining and is unequipped with the technology. By the Way, Trump himself has admitted that he is personally unacquainted with the new developments.
8. The Republican National Committee claims that it is up to speed on the new technology but both the National Committee and Mitt Romney have grievously disappointed us in the past.
9. That data mining (as alleged by those who developed it and successfully applied it for Obama) can win any election that is within two or three points.
I don't post replies for the sake of reading what I dictate, I try to offer value added. I have listed 9 facts (and several more reasons) which make it clear that the words were not "empty." Indeed in a previous post I pointed out that a new thread popped up on the very subject of data mining, thus confirming its relevance.
Do you want an amen chorus or do you want value-added? You certainly can object to my reasons or to my argument but you don't do that, you object to me. I want Donald Trump to win this election as I have always said I would if he were to become the nominee. My post is offered not as mindless cheerleading but as my thoughts for how he might do that. Let the reader judge who abuses fellow conservatives, who posts empty words, who turns the political into the personal and who tries to advance us to the election of Donald Trump.
See what I mean? Bloviating. Holier than thou. Wall of text. Even after I called you out on those three specific things, your response includes all three things!
Is this some form of irony that I’m unaware of where you think it’s clever to prove my accusations while trying to deny them or something?
Whatever. Quit trying to force us all into despair because your candidate lost and you can’t stop pouting. Good day.
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