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To: nathanbedford

You could have said, ‘we should treat the polls as accurate and work harder.’ Or ‘There’s still work to do’ or ‘We can’t be complacent.’

Instead your comments are all variations on the theme of ‘Trump sucks. I’m awesome. You’re all stupid.’ In wall of text format no less.

VERY tiresome to have a condescending windbag lecturing you.


177 posted on 06/28/2016 5:50:06 AM PDT by Luircin (Stomp Hillary, build wall, stop Islam. Any of the above are good reasons to vote. Trump 2016)
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To: Luircin
In your first attack against me, contained in your post #164, you say: YOU again?!

More sore loser bloviating too?

Having read your post attacking me I concluded you have two objections:

1. You object to my mere presence.

2. You object because you believe I am "bloviating" which I take to mean empty verbosity. Let's consider whether my post is empty.

Unwilling to accommodate your first objection, I sought to answer your second criticism in my reply #172 in which I referred you to an article which happily had just appeared as the subject of a companion thread talking about data mining. As I indicated in my original post, I have been on this subject of the new electoral technology of data mining for some time and I have been warning about the perils of ignoring this new campaigning technique several times, citing the MIT Technology Review article which describes and purports to explain Romney's defeat. The criticism I level against those who do not data mine and couple it with the latest techniques, was explicitly aimed, not at Donald Trump as you seem unreasonably to infer, but clearly against Romney and the Republican Party.

Contrary to my clear statements, you allege that my "comments are all variations on the theme of "Trump sucks…" Clearly that was not the case and your criticism is well off the mark. For the record, I never said "I am awesome" nor did I say "you're all stupid." Am I supposed to defend myself against things that I did not say but have been falsely accused of? Here is what I did say in praise of Donald Trump:

We are depending on Trump's charisma, the power of his personality, and his unique ability to crystallize an issue and make it understandable and unforgettable to the mass of the voting public.

You suggest that I could have better exhorted all of us to stop dismissing the polls as false and work harder etc. to have done so would be to merely state the obvious and really to be guilty of condescension. I do not waste words or engaged in "bloviating" to waste time stating the obvious. Rather than engage in self deceived cheerleading which diverts us from working harder, I adduced reasons why we are in the place we are in as conservatives who want Trump to be elected:

1. The landscape of the electoral college. By this I mean that there are a few battleground states and Trump must run the table of these states or lose the election. It is possible that he can change the landscape of the electoral college in the rust belt etc. and I alluded to that describing the man's charismatic ability to frame issues. That has been one of the arguments in favor of his nomination all along. We shall see. It is a development devoutly to be wished for because it could change the slow and fatal constriction of the Republican Party and the conservative movement to an ever diminishing number of winnable states.

2. The undeniable fact, indeed the admitted fact, that the Trump campaign has very little money.

3. The media is against us.

4. That we have seen these polls (described by me as a "movie") several times before with a bad result. (This is in accord with what you say you want).

5. The undeniable fact, indeed the admitted fact, that Trump has not staffed up adequately for a national election.

6. The campaign is running out of time.

7. The undeniable fact, indeed the admitted fact, that the Trump organization is simply not set up for data mining and is unequipped with the technology. By the Way, Trump himself has admitted that he is personally unacquainted with the new developments.

8. The Republican National Committee claims that it is up to speed on the new technology but both the National Committee and Mitt Romney have grievously disappointed us in the past.

9. That data mining (as alleged by those who developed it and successfully applied it for Obama) can win any election that is within two or three points.

I don't post replies for the sake of reading what I dictate, I try to offer value added. I have listed 9 facts (and several more reasons) which make it clear that the words were not "empty." Indeed in a previous post I pointed out that a new thread popped up on the very subject of data mining, thus confirming its relevance.

Do you want an amen chorus or do you want value-added? You certainly can object to my reasons or to my argument but you don't do that, you object to me. I want Donald Trump to win this election as I have always said I would if he were to become the nominee. My post is offered not as mindless cheerleading but as my thoughts for how he might do that. Let the reader judge who abuses fellow conservatives, who posts empty words, who turns the political into the personal and who tries to advance us to the election of Donald Trump.


178 posted on 06/28/2016 9:25:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford (wearing a zot as a battlefield promotion in the war for truth)
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