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Lawmakers fume after VA ditches power to fire employees
Washington Examiner ^ | 6/17/16 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 06/17/2016 1:41:25 PM PDT by Nachum

The Department of Veterans Affairs has angered and frustrated lawmakers by deciding to stop using their authority to fire senior employees, an authority Congress gave the VA in response to the wait-times scandal of 2014.

"Everyone knows VA isn't very good at disciplining employees, but this decision calls into question whether department leaders are even interested in doing so," House Veterans Affairs Committee chairman Jeff Miller, R-Fla., said Friday.

The expedited firing process was designed to help VA leaders flush out senior officials who had overseen the manipulation of wait times, which prevent veterans from receiving timely healthcare. But it hasn't been used much, and it provoked a number of legal challenges from fired employees.

In response, Attorney General Loretta Lynch has declined to defend a provision of the law that cuts off one way employees can appeal disciplinary decisions.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: employees; power; va
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1 posted on 06/17/2016 1:41:25 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 06/17/2016 1:42:16 PM PDT by Nachum (ISIS is alive... and Chris Stevens is dead)
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To: Nachum
They are not going to fire themselves.
3 posted on 06/17/2016 1:44:12 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Nachum

It’s things like this that make me realize just how incredibly stupid Congress is.


4 posted on 06/17/2016 1:44:58 PM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost, like tears in rain.)
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To: Nachum

This is not the most egregious headline I’ve seen lately, by any means. But it illustrates to a “T” why our gov. is entirely, 100%, corrupt, unconstitutional and lawless. It has to be cleaned out wholesale, or there will be hell to pay.


5 posted on 06/17/2016 1:52:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. FrankliIn)
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To: Seruzawa

If it was merely stupid it would not be so dangerous.

Corrupt, lawless, criminal, bought and paid for, evil agenda driven, and basically trasonous would be more precise.


6 posted on 06/17/2016 1:53:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. FrankliIn)
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To: Nachum

wtf? how do they do that?

“We abdicate our power to fire people”

So ... everyone has to stay because they took away their own power to fire people? Def. libtards in charge


7 posted on 06/17/2016 1:55:56 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: Seruzawa
It’s things like this that make me realize just how incredibly stupid Congress is."

Au contraire mon amie...your Congressman can only do/act as the majority of his constituents let said congressman know how they feel about an issue. How often do you take the time to fax a few lines rather than call or how often do you call the congressman's local office? You 'hired' him/her...let them know who they work for. The VA corruption is a sign of citizens sitting on their duffs instead of hammering their elected.

It's your choice.

8 posted on 06/17/2016 2:19:54 PM PDT by yoe
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To: Nachum

“In response, Attorney General Loretta Lynch has declined to defend a provision of the law that cuts off one way employees can appeal disciplinary decisions.”

Standard DEMOCRAT tactic. Jerry Brown, and the Democrats use it all the time in California to allow the environmentalists to win their lawsuits against the State. They don’t defend the State. Make only a show of doing it. Environmentalists are the Democrats major donor, and the major participants in all things Democrat within the party, so of course the environmentalists get what they want.

Now by this article we see they are using the same tactic to skirt the intent of the Congressional relief they were provided to clean up the VA. Bearing in mind the bureaucracy is stuffed full of entrenched Democrats.


9 posted on 06/17/2016 2:27:54 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Nachum

Kneel! Kneel before your government employee gods, you filthy swine taxpayers!

Bring them offerings of bonuses and bribes lest they strike you down!


10 posted on 06/17/2016 2:46:44 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Nachum

All you have to do is control the VA pay computer.

Turnabout is fair play.

Start screwing up their pay.

When they complain, tell them you are looking into it. Tell them it will take at least three months.

When they complain again, tell them to call the pay office. Give them a phone number to a phone that is never answered.

After three more months, tell them they need to fill out a form. Have them mail in the form and let it sit on a desk for six months.

When they complain again, tell them to call the Inspector General. Have no one answer the phone.

After four years, tell them there is no record of them ever working for the VA. Tell them there was a fire and their record may have been burned up.

Tell them to reapply for a job.


11 posted on 06/17/2016 2:54:35 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Seruzawa

And yet Paul Ryan goes on national television and says he will sue Trump over stopping Muslim immigration.


12 posted on 06/17/2016 3:01:31 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: Nachum

The inglorious V.A. must have caved to the internal office pressure of the American Federation of Government Employees, which is the largest FEDERAL EMPLOYEE UNION within the V.A.

I was an employee of the V.A. New Orleans, and it was quite evident, that every little ‘department’ had their own little ‘empire of ol’ boys and girls’, down to the department that took care of the hospital daily supplies.

Any talk of any employee, had to be coordinated with the ‘AFGE’, either good or bad.


13 posted on 06/17/2016 3:06:02 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

Make the VA benefits private. Eliminate the VA, IRS and other BS agencies.


14 posted on 06/17/2016 3:47:04 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Nachum

With Jeff Miller in charge, no wonder it is still messed up.


15 posted on 06/17/2016 7:51:23 PM PDT by jch10 (Obama, now out of excuses.)
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To: Chgogal

They will sure give themselves promotions, bonuses and pay raises, while the Ret. Military sees zip this year.


16 posted on 06/18/2016 3:30:25 AM PDT by GailA (A politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: sasquatch

Dear sasquatch,

re: “Make the VA benefits private. Eliminate the VA, IRS and other BS agencies.”

I agree we should do something.

As to the V.A., there is one point that i will share, as a veteran getting all my medical care from them.

The pharmacy refill program is something that is another mess, BEYOND what goes on at the clinics and medical centers.

Let’s say you have “prescription whachamakeuvit”. You need this prescription, in managing kidkneecholheartblad problems, and you are running low, but not less than 10 days worth, yet. You KNOW, if you are within a close travel range of your local VAMC, you will sit there the whole day waiting on your refill.

So, you grab your phone of choice and call the prescribed V.A. number, and enter into the ‘push for this’ menu. Once you have done that, your order is not processed at the local VAMC, but digitally sent, to the prescription clearing house and dispensary IN NASHVILLE, TN. It is THEY who will fill and mail your prescription refill request, within 7 to 10 days, providing that those lovely over-paid USPS workers do not go on strike.

Now, in making anything change from governmental to private, there would be a ‘snafu notch’, and in this notch, might be some very necessary stuff, that need not fall through the seams of the carpet, which would include me.

I agree that the federal government is overgrown, and needs a large pruning to occur. With the tremendous success and inter-agency accomplishments under its belt, why not get rid of the Dept. of Homeland Security, and give it back to the original homeland security outfit, the FBI; and let the CIA do its job, outside of the borders of CONUS, as it did before each sitting president got his fingers in the mud.

The Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms department of the U.S. Treasury has not been as keen as it should be, either.

The Drug Enforcement Agency, and ‘the war on drugs’, has not done too well in deterring drug trafficking. If there is ‘a war’, where are the blood and gut casualties? That whole scene has reduced to a game of hide and seek, and a rabbithole for government money.


17 posted on 06/19/2016 11:31:24 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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