“Mateen wielded an AR-15”
Says who?
Time to get rid of those guns then. After listening to barrage of gun fire towards the end, I don’t see how some of the innocents weren’t hit by cop bullets. Collateral damage anyone? It used to happen in time of war but the military has had it’s hands tied for a long time now to minimize CD. Cops, maybe not so much.
Well, the absolute paramount important thing is that no police officer was injured in this conflagration.
Personally, I’d like to see a detailed accounting of how many police rounds were expended in this melee, and exactly what type of bullets they were using.
And wear your damn vests. That's why they're issued.
What type of guns do you think the cops killed this muzzie terrorist with?
Yep.
This is the first I have seen that 4 armed LEO confronted him from the start.
Sounds like gungrabber BS made up after the fact.
But, of course, police are the only ones qualified to possess firearms.
This article discusses exchanges of firepower. Earlier reports state 202 shots were fired while other reports characterize Omar as a skilled marksman. There certainly appears to be questions regarding the number of shots and who fired them...considering:
Dozens of bullet holes dotted the exterior concrete wall, evidence of the shootout that included dozens of rounds fired by officers.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree....things do NOT add up
Should have just dropped a JDAM on the place.
Next, please.........
ISIL....but only if you are one of them.
If Mateen was "in a bathroom" talking to hostage negotiators then he obviously wasn't out in the main part of the club, nor did he have a line of sight to the main entrance. So there was nothing to prevent police from entering the front door and rescuing the wounded in the front part of the club. Once you have multiple people shot there isn't much point in negotiating with the killer for more than a few minutes.
And there was nothing to prevent them from closing on him from the inside of the club, or setting up an ambush for him outside the bathroom.
And there was nothing preventing them from storming the bathroom.
At this point I think we are hearing a lot of spin by the Orlando police to explain their gross errors.
Chuck a few CS grenades inside.
Patrons & the shooter would have made their own openings in the building.
(BTW) be prepared to make more openings & ventilate soon after - CS in a confined space will kill you - drown in your won mucus.)
It was NOT an AR15.
He called dispatchers twice and hung up before they called him back, the source said.
He hung up before they called him back? I would think so.
A 3’ by 2’ hole. I don’t see a lot of people getting through that small of a hole.
These are probably ly the “second shooter” that people have brought up. Wouldn’t doubt it at all.
Criticism of the OPD for not being perfect during those two periods shows ignorance of the mechanics of firefights in such awful situations, and is very unfair to the officers during their duty.
Where the OPD really needs to be called out is for failure to engage once the SWAT team had deployed with the Bearcat. That let the perp roam around murdering victims who hadn't gotten out yet.
That was a command failure, and very indicative of a senior officer afraid to make a decision. Blame him, not the patrolmen and sergeants.
Yeah - try to blame the cops - if they hadn’t showed up the guy wouldn’t have killed anyone else and would have miraculously healed those he had already killed....
Maternity did not use an AR-15.
Firefight with hostages running chaotically....not a surprise
The more I read about this terror attack, the more convinced I am that the Keystone Kops are in charge.
One good shot who was armed could have dispatched this
MUSLIM TERRORIST to his imagined scores of perpetual
virgins in his Mohammed “Paradise” BEFORE he killed so
many.