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1 posted on 06/15/2016 11:34:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

And it’s already going on here “voluntarily.”

Just the other day I had a post removed from the ABC comments in a story on the controversy over gay men wanting the ban on them donating blood lifted. There was nothing “hateful” about it. It was simply facts. And a great many other comments on that story were removed as well. You could tell they weren’t merely offensive comments, either, because the replies were often left, and they indicated the posts were eliminated due to the posters’ opinions in many cases.

I’ve also encountered web sites that simply make your posts invisible. Salon is one. In a story on this practice, they claim they monitor comments, and ones that don’t seem “helpful” to having a “good discussion” are removed.

http://digiday.com/publishers/salon-tamed-trolls-saved-online-comments/

Many other web sites are also discontinuing comments. CNN is a major one.


2 posted on 06/15/2016 11:44:18 AM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Kaslin

Much of what the Left insists is hate speech, is actually rational dissent from the totalitarian agenda that the Left wants to impose on the peoples of the earth. Think about it!


3 posted on 06/15/2016 11:49:22 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Kaslin

Free Speech will always be considered “hate speech” to some.
The Founding Fathers in their genius understood this.

Liberals never will since everything offends these snowflakes.


4 posted on 06/15/2016 11:50:43 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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To: Kaslin

Hypocrites take pause before posting.


5 posted on 06/15/2016 11:52:19 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Kaslin
Mark Steyn made this point in testimony, IIRC, to a Canadian speech police organization. He asked what the commission thought should have been done in Germany to shut up Hitler.

Then Steyn explained to the committee that exactly what they thought should have been done, was in fact done. With the result we know.


6 posted on 06/15/2016 11:58:02 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Kaslin
Someone needs to tell Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, YouTube and the European Union that the only way to stop a bad guy's speech is to counter it with a good guy's speech, not censor it.

Susan Stamper Brown is right...

7 posted on 06/15/2016 11:58:48 AM PDT by GOPJ ("9-in-10 GOP outsiders say 4-in-10 GOP insiderds should STFU". - Freeper RoosterRedux)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve always said to let the whackos and loony’s speak all they want. That way we will know who to watch.


9 posted on 06/15/2016 12:04:13 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: Kaslin

I charge them with Christophobia. Not burddening their free speech, but exercising my own. I tell it like it is. Usuaally.


10 posted on 06/15/2016 12:07:22 PM PDT by chesley (The right to protest is not the right to disrupt.)
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To: Kaslin

"No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority." --Thomas Jefferson to New London Methodists, 1809. ME 16:332

"That form [of self-government] which we have substituted [for that which bound men under the chains of monkish ignorance and superstition] restores the free right to the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion." --Thomas Jefferson to Roger C. Weightman, 1826. ME 16:182

"A right to take the side which every man's conscience approves in a civil contest is too precious a right, and too favorable to the preservation of liberty, not to be protected by all its well-informed friends." --Thomas Jefferson to Katherine Sprowle Douglas, 1785. FE 4:66, Papers 8:260

"Subject opinion to coercion: whom will you make your inquisitors? Fallible men, governed by bad passions, by private as well as public reasons. And why subject it to coercion? To produce uniformity? But is uniformity of opinion desirable? No more than of face and stature." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XVII, 1782. ME 2:223

"The freedom of opinion and the reasonable maintenance of it is not a crime and ought not to occasion injury." --Thomas Jefferson to Gideon Granger, 1801.

"The legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions." --Thomas Jefferson to Danbury Baptists, 1802.

"This country, which has given to the world the example of physical liberty, owes to it that of moral emancipation also. For as yet, it is but nominal with us. The inquisition of public opinion overwhelms in practice the freedom asserted by the laws in theory." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1821. ME 15:308

"It is inconsistent with the spirit of our laws and Constitution to force tender consciences." --Thomas Jefferson: Proclamation Concerning Paroles, 1781. FE 2:430, Papers 4:404

"The error seems not sufficiently eradicated that the operations of the mind as well as the acts of the body are subject to the coercion of the laws. But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XVII, 1782. ME 2:221

"[The] liberty of speaking and writing... guards our other liberties." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Philadelphia Democratic Republicans, 1808. ME 16:304

"We are bound, you, I, and every one to make common cause, even with error itself, to maintain the common right of freedom of conscience." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Dowse, 1803. ME 10:378

"It behooves every man who values liberty of conscience for himself, to resist invasions of it in the case of others; or their case may, by change of circumstances, become his own. It behooves him, too, in his own case, to give no example of concession, betraying the common right of independent opinion, by answering questions of faith, which the laws have left between God and himself." --Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 1803. ME 10:381

12 posted on 06/15/2016 12:14:20 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Kaslin

Once again, Kaslin knocks it out the park.


16 posted on 06/15/2016 12:34:02 PM PDT by SWAMP-C1PHER (HOMO, OECONOMIA, ET CIVITAS.)
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To: Kaslin
Someone needs to tell Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, YouTube and the European Union that the only way to stop a bad guy's speech is to counter it with a good guy's speech, not censor it.

The problem the Left faces, is that they are UNABLE to counter conservative speech, particularly conservative speech which backs up its position with facts and references to authoritative sources.

Leftist speech depends on the ability to utter false statements without contradiction. When shown to be wrong, they have nothing left to say. That's why they always want to suppress non-Left speech wherever they can.

20 posted on 06/15/2016 3:46:10 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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