Posted on 05/28/2016 10:10:57 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
"Beware snake oil salesman 'Lyin' Ted" Cruz."
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Nope. The difference is "due process." Accidental execution of the innocent has it, and abortion doesn't.
Of course you're bright! You figured out he's not what he originally billed himself to be, didn't you?
I liked him at first, too.
-—be gentle with those poor saps who thought anybody in the GOP actually meant any of that pro-life stuff.
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We try to be... but it’s not easy is it?
“The Trump camp does read FR! Roger Stone referenced the article I posted!”
I’ve been wondering where they get their ideas...
This is one of those issues that separates being genuinely pro-life from being merely anti-abortion.
Not unless you can point to a single, verifiable, non-correctable step in "due process."
As far as statistics go, I'd like to see the factors you're evaluating to make that gratuitous assertion.
So then, do you think the sidewalk counselors are a waste of time? Since they only save a small number of babies, a statistically insignificant number when compared to the number who die each year, they shouldn't bother, right? Because saving some babies is worthless unless you can save them all?
The pragmatic approach--working to decrease the number of abortions while realizing that stopping abortion out right is an impossible goal for the foreseeable future--is really the only workable approach.
> Not unless you can point to a single, verifiable, non-correctable step in “due process.”
That the system is inherently imperfect because of the fallibility of man, as I mentioned - and thus it is unavoidable that the death penalty will cause innocents to be put to death. Errors in the execution of due process, which are routine, become impossible to correct when the irreversible act of ending a life occurs.
I believe that the above is self-evident, but if you do not agree, let’s try this another way.
Other than the abortion issue, in what way do you believe the principles involved in being pro-life should influence policy?
So you believe it's OK for Christians to lie if they think it will help their meme?
Trump may not be as foaming at the mouth concerned about abortion as some but he sure isn't pro-abortion either. You want to see pro-abortion - look at how Obama and the rest of the Left make it a point to foster/aid/abet the atrocities along with forcing homosexuality and "other than male/female" down our throats.
You have no discernment and try to make the myriad shades of gray that God designed into our world into absolute Black and White. Jesus/God Holy Spirit pass the absolute test - this world doesn't and won't until He comes back.
Go sit in your pew and say a thousand Hail Marys...
The party platform can be useful, but is basically a stage for people to strut on during the convention for attention. Cruz, no doubt, has visions of himself causing a huge stampede in his direction over it and winning the nomination.
There is NOTHING wrong with elected Cruz or Rubio delegates supporting the conservative pro-life planks in the platform. The convention is about more than selecting a nominee for president and vice-president, there is also the platform and rules for future primaries and conventions, etc.
I’m behind Trump, I am also behind the pro-life planks that the GOP-E, Drive-by media and Dole/Romney/McCain operatives always try to weaken.
Exactly. Amen!
I can’t find who coined the phrase, but I first heard it on http://www.lifetalktv.com/ by Mark Crutcher of Life Dynamics many years ago.
“and then you can kill the baby”, referring to any supposed pro life legislation that you can say that after the terms of the legislation are met.
That is why exceptions and restrictions are no good because after those are met “and then you can kill the baby”
The “LIFE” of the mother is the ONLY exception that could be allowed, but it is almost NEVER an issue. Then it is a pro LIFE decision, “which” life to save.
Rape and incest, while distasteful, have NOTHING to do with the baby. It is a completely separate life, NOT part of the mother. It is it’s own unique human PERSON created by Jesus.
In a Keith Green song “A Billion Starving People”, there is a line, talking about abortion,”and each one is handmade by Jesus”. This song breaks my heart every time I hear it. I get a lump in my throat every time I hear that line.
Well, you still haven’t validated your claim that the process is inherently flawed because of man’s involvement. While in a practical sense you are correct, that does not impeach the validity of the process to absolve the society practicing it from wrongdoing.
Furthermore, you are conflating a form of murder with a form of justice by ignoring things such intent, crime, and punishment.
No, I believe along with most legal theoreticians throughout man’s recorded history that your assertion is anything but “self-evident.”
But on to the “other way.”
I believe abortion should be proscribed and punished in every circumstance excepting legitimate fear for the physical life of the mother. Yes, that includes rape, incest, and fetal deformity.
Just in case you don't know this: You can't get more pro abortion than her. You also can't be pro life if you want to help her win.
Thought you should know.
” And no, I do not support illegal border crossing aside from seeking sanctuary from evil people/governments “
Using the logic you demonstrated previously in this thread, you do support illegal boarder crossing. You cannot have it both ways.
It’s effort against a abortion is zero.
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