Posted on 05/27/2016 9:37:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
“Spock! You’re out of your Vulcan mind!”
I may have just misattributed that Jim Carey joke to Nye, while recalling his Shatner-Does-Broadway sketch. But I also loved Almost Live. Speedwalker and COPS of Ballard, as I mentioned to Tilted Kilt.
My favorite was “Mind Your Manners with Billy Kwan.”
Ben, welcome to the party! See, SkyDancer and Kaslin I told you that he wouldn't let us down.
Ben Ficklin, renewable energy is called firewood where I live. The only “renewable energy” source that provides electricity for utilities which makes economic sense without massive government subsidies is hydroelectric.
Making candy bars is not actually a power intensive industry, so big whoop! If they actually wanted to make a difference they would by partnering with a tooth paste company or Jenny Craig. Instead Mars is partnering with the bird and bat exterminating wind cartel. This is a combo publicity stunt and way for them to get government subsidies and tax write offs. Candy companies are always looking for some way to improve their image. They normally take a lot of heat for causing tooth decay, obesity, diabetes and heart disease.
In addition there is probably a little government graft taking place and maybe Bill Nye will pretend that he is eating a snickers in between carrots and celery sticks.
You can find lists of companies who have already shifted 100% to renewables or have shifted as much as technically feasible. They all think that burning fossil fuels causes global warming.
No very few think anything of the sort, but they do think that pandering to leftist loons might be good for their bottom line. But as I have responded to you a dozen times before... consensus even if it did exist... is not a scientific argument. I know that supposed consensus is all that you have, but I keep thinking that maybe you will at least do us the favor of citing at least something related to actual observational data one of these days. But thanks for dropping by to help keep us on our toes.
That term “Renewable energy” is a misnomer. Once energy is converted ( goes into heat) it’s gone. You could say, in a way, that hydroelectric power is renewable in that water can be used again further on down stream. But it’s the same water, it wasn’t converted into something else and used for power; you could argue that water converted into steam can be renewed but it took an energy source to do that. Hmm, now if water turned a turbine that made electricity that ran an electric furnace that heated water into steam to do work of some sort but then why bother, just use the electricity water produced in the first place. My head hurts, gonna lay down for a bit.
You make an interesting point about the nature of energy. Hydrocarbon energy buried in the earths crust such as coal and oil are actually the buried remains mostly of plant life and algae from eons ago with some animal matter as well. The plant life and algae used energy from the sun to grow. That energy was converted to biomass and stored underground. So in a sense nearly all hydrocarbon energy is in reality solar power. Your F350 Super Duty Pick-up truck truly is a solar powered vehicle.
Here's a page from Mars' website where there is a 4 min video on their windfarm in Texas.
After you have talked with him, let me know how the conversation went
You know that I love you, but I have no desire to talk to anyone named “Barry Parkin”.
I am concerned about any company pandering to the left at the expense of the environment.
“Bryce reviewed the new steps taken by that agency to “extend the length of permits for accidental eagle kills from the current five years to 30 years. The changes would allow wind-energy producers to kill or injure as many as 4,200 bald eagles every year.” He also noted that a 2013 study in the Wildlife Society Bulletin, “estimated that wind turbines killed about 888,000 bats and 573,000 birds (including 83,000 raptors) in 2012 alone.” Who knows how many birds and raptors have been killed since that year because, as Bryce pointed out, the wind industry doesn’t have to report bird kills.”
http://www.plasticstoday.com/answer-sustainability-isn%E2%80%99t-blowing-wind/160971034224634
Basically wind farms in the United States kill ten times more birds and bats than the Exxon Valdez oil spill did virtually every single day. "Wind Farms" are "renewable" energy only if you consider the lives of millions of birds and bats as being worth nothing. They are ugly despicable and disgusting bird and bat killing machines.
Same way with Willie Soon who wrote the article above. To be honest with you, I'm shocked that man with Soon's education has fallen to the point that he is writing for the fringe element.
Gratuitous and ad hominem. Try again.
Like lawyers.
Ya got facts and you got laws in every suit.
If the facts are on your side; pound the facts.
If the law is on your side; pound the law.
If neither are; pound the table!
I doubt it...
They all think that NOT burning fossil fuels causes a larger PROFIT in their pockets due to folks who 'want to save the world'.
They will pay EXTRA for the products sold to feel good about something.
I shudda read ahead; again...
1970s’ global cooling:
“The Cooling World”
Newsweek, April 28, 1975
http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
About the size of PARIS?
Likewise; CHOICE kills more future American citizens EVERYDAY than 'terrorists' did on 911!
But just WHO are we worried about?
Remember kids, be like Billy!
On occasion I show my students a Bill Nye episode but I always make sure to tell them that he’s just an actor playing a part. One little boy said “Let’s call him Bill Lies the Science Guy!”
I knew that I could count on you to start calling names when presented with facts and figures. You have gone total Alynski on us once again, but we love you anyway.
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