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Pope Francis might jettison idea of a ‘just war’
AP ^ | May 26, 2016 | Maria J. Stephan

Posted on 05/27/2016 6:26:18 AM PDT by C19fan

Developed in the fifth century A.D. by St. Augustine, the doctrine of a “just war” empowers rulers to wage war only as a last resort to confront grave wrongs. As Augustine wrote: “Peace should be the object of your desire; war should be waged only as a necessity.”

Later, the Summa Theologica, written by St. Thomas Aquinas in the 1260s and 1270s, clarified that war could only be waged by a properly instituted authority like the state, that it could not occur for purposes of self-gain, and that attaining peace must be its central aim.

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KEYWORDS: justwar; popefrancis; theology; war
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Leading lambs to the slaughter. Luv this quote from the piece:

Rather than getting bogged down in debates over whether military force to save the Yazidis is justified (a debate that would likely prove to be unnecessarily divisive)

Isn't that the cruz of the debate Ms. Stephan? Or should the Yazidis just lay down and accept the slaughter?

1 posted on 05/27/2016 6:26:18 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Pope Chè has no problem with jihad, though.


2 posted on 05/27/2016 6:28:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("During a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" --George Orwell)
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To: C19fan

Hell, even the Dalai Lama believes in shooting back.
What is wrong with this Pope?


3 posted on 05/27/2016 6:30:21 AM PDT by Little Ray (NOTHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS TO PAY FOR IS A RIGHT.)
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To: Little Ray

He serves a different master.


4 posted on 05/27/2016 6:33:33 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

How about we jettison Pope Francis?


5 posted on 05/27/2016 6:34:09 AM PDT by exit82 (Road Runner sez:" Let's Make America Beeping Great Again! Beep! Beep!")
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To: C19fan

Even the worst popes didn’t change Church theology.


6 posted on 05/27/2016 6:34:17 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Little Ray

It took me a while to reach this conclusion but the Pope is basically a cartoon character now. A buffoon.


7 posted on 05/27/2016 6:34:20 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: C19fan; onyx; MeganC
Is anyone familiar with the term Judas Goat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat

If not, you should be.

And I'm Jewish

8 posted on 05/27/2016 6:35:33 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Never Killary!)
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To: headstamp 2

Dunno.
A cartoon character or a clown would be doing less damage to the Church.
I’m thinking he is actual enemy of the West and Christiandom.


9 posted on 05/27/2016 6:37:11 AM PDT by Little Ray (NOTHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS TO PAY FOR IS A RIGHT.)
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To: C19fan

“The Last Pope”


10 posted on 05/27/2016 6:37:37 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: C19fan

Every day this guy says something that makes me think I need to find another church. Fast!


11 posted on 05/27/2016 6:37:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Pope Francis:“Faith and violence are incompatible”.

I hope he will explain to Jesus how wrong he was to drive the money changers from the Temple.


12 posted on 05/27/2016 6:39:14 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

I’ll take the time tested pronouncements of St. Thomas Aquinas or St. Augustine over the suicidal statements which flow from the mouth of Pope Frank.


13 posted on 05/27/2016 6:50:33 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: TTFlyer

Why would he be the last Pope?


14 posted on 05/27/2016 6:51:32 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: PTBAA

Or the very clear language in Matthew 10:34 . . .


15 posted on 05/27/2016 6:52:50 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: C19fan

So does that mean he’ll be getting rid of the Swiss Guard?


16 posted on 05/27/2016 6:55:16 AM PDT by sasherm13
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To: Vigilanteman

These people who support “Civil Disobedience” as an alternative to violence don’t get the fact that it is a tactic that can only be viewed in context, and used in certain well-suited situations.

When Martin Luther King, Jr. used it here, America was already deep into the process of shedding old racial prejudices and divisions. He just came along and delivered some badly needed shoves to a few stubborn areas. Eventually we would have gotten to the point of racial equality, because most people believed that racism was backward and counterproductive.

When Gandhi used it in India, Britain was already an tired, spent empire that was about to begin letting go of it’s colonial holdings. Again, Gandhi came along and developed a few well-timed shoves to an already weakened institution.

If we had tried the same tactic with the British in 1776, at the height of their economic and military power, they would have squashed us like a bug.


17 posted on 05/27/2016 6:55:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

“You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you. “

Who said dat? Leon Trotsky.


18 posted on 05/27/2016 6:56:00 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Exactly. As another Freeper put it, Gandhi and MLK were successful in what they did only because they appealed to the conscience of a state which had a conscience.

Had they tried the same thing in the old Soviet Union, they would be nothing but forgotten names in a Gulag roster somewhere in Siberia.

19 posted on 05/27/2016 7:01:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The Church founded by Christ will persist. This Pope is temporary.


20 posted on 05/27/2016 7:01:39 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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